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Carl Goff




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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: MRL's having a big sale.         Reply with quote

http://www.museumreplicas.com/webstore/Browse...ionSource=

The stuff that looks even semi-accurate is at the link. Anyone capable of discussing the quality of the sax, Irish two-hander, and spatha on that page? I'd like to know.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I can't comment on the items you asked about, but I thought it odd that they sell a "sharpened flared longsword". That blade style is for a practice sword, it's funny that someone would want that sharp Confused Eek!
Oh well, different strokes for different folks.

Thanks for pointing out the sale Carl!

-James

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J. Bedell wrote:
I can't comment on the items you asked about, but I thought it odd that they sell a "sharpened flared longsword". That blade style is for a practice sword, it's funny that someone would want that sharp Confused Eek!
Oh well, different strokes for different folks.

Thanks for pointing out the sale Carl!

-James


Well, there was supposedly a sword in the Baron De Cosson collection that was flared like that. I don't think it was a trainer.

I'm not sure MRL is having a sale. Those are just close-out/clearance items.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Please see here for more info on these flared swords:

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=2218
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=6953
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=7943

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 9:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:

Well, there was supposedly a sword in the Baron De Cosson collection that was flared like that. I don't think it was a trainer.

I'm not sure MRL is having a sale. Those are just close-out/clearance items.


They sent me an e-mail hyping it as BIG SALE! And I haven't seen some of that in closeout before.

Chad, you're one of our resident gurus-any opinion on the Irish Two-hander?

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You could not break the Northern wolf and now the wolf has turned on you.
The fires that light the coasts of Spain fling shadows on the Eastern strand.
Master, your slave has come again with torch and axe in his right hand!
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Carl Goff wrote:

They sent me an e-mail hyping it as BIG SALE! And I haven't seen some of that in closeout before.

Chad, you're one of our resident gurus-any opinion on the Irish Two-hander?


Strange. Much of that stuff has been in the Closeout section for the last couple of weeks. Maybe they were moving them there for the email announcement.

As for being some kind of guru, I'm not sure that's true. Happy In regards to the Irish two hander, it looks okay. It's a lot of sword for less than $200. The pommel looks clunky, but the guard looks fairly detailed. The multi-fullered hexagonal section blade doesn't look bad either. It's likely a decent to good (or better) deal, assuming the hilt/tang assembly is good.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
As for being some kind of guru, I'm not sure that's true. Happy In regards to the Irish two hander, it looks okay. It's a lot of sword for less than $200. The pommel looks clunky, but the guard looks fairly detailed. The multi-fullered hexagonal section blade doesn't look bad either. It's likely a decent to good (or better) deal, assuming the hilt/tang assembly is good.


I think I'll stick something up in Historic Arms Talk, see if anyone has owned one and can tell me about that hilt/tang assembly. I swear I remember someone claiming a bad experience with the tang on that piece, but nosing around with search hasn't produced anything yet.

Thanks for the advice, though. I'll have to see if my bank account will stretch to cover it. I just spent $140 on a secondhand MRL falcata and $75 on a bunch of used books, and I'm not sure if I've got enough spare cash for another purchase this semester.

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You could not break the Northern wolf and now the wolf has turned on you.
The fires that light the coasts of Spain fling shadows on the Eastern strand.
Master, your slave has come again with torch and axe in his right hand!
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Chad for pointing out those links! I remember reading one of those topics before but I had forgotten about it. It was obviously a type of sword that was used but for some reason it still looks odd to me...

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Carl Goff wrote:
Chad Arnow wrote:
As for being some kind of guru, I'm not sure that's true. Happy In regards to the Irish two hander, it looks okay. It's a lot of sword for less than $200. The pommel looks clunky, but the guard looks fairly detailed. The multi-fullered hexagonal section blade doesn't look bad either. It's likely a decent to good (or better) deal, assuming the hilt/tang assembly is good.


I think I'll stick something up in Historic Arms Talk, see if anyone has owned one and can tell me about that hilt/tang assembly. I swear I remember someone claiming a bad experience with the tang on that piece, but nosing around with search hasn't produced anything yet.

Thanks for the advice, though. I'll have to see if my bank account will stretch to cover it. I just spent $140 on a secondhand MRL falcata and $75 on a bunch of used books, and I'm not sure if I've got enough spare cash for another purchase this semester.


Well I'm no expert but that seems quite heavy to me even for such a long sword...

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean Henri Chandler wrote:
Well I'm no expert but that seems quite heavy to me even for such a long sword...

J


*checks* Zeus, you're right. That's WAY too heavy. Geez, what are they doing to that one? Lead hilt?

Oh, East of sands and sunlit gulf, your blood is thin, your gods are few;
You could not break the Northern wolf and now the wolf has turned on you.
The fires that light the coasts of Spain fling shadows on the Eastern strand.
Master, your slave has come again with torch and axe in his right hand!
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The Windlass Irish two-handr goes back to about 1999. I don't ever recall an online impression of the piece.

The stock catalog photos can be pretty telling on some of these. The Irish has always (to me) looked like the pommel was either a bit askew, or lopsided. The Swiss War Sword, from a year or so later was a similar photo take tthat showed actual misfit/finish.

Bill Tsafa (or, by any other name, the tire pell fellow) did break the pommel off a Generation 2 Irish sword pommel and I would wonder if that is what folk are remembering.

I guess I fell into the dead file for Atlanta Cutlery and Museum Replicas. I was getting catalogs and email up until last spring, then nothing. I do browse the page every few weeks. Some of the Windlass vendors do closely follow suit, I don't now if they are drop shipping from a mother ship.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hmm, that English Cut and Thrust looks kinda fun. Any one ever handled one of these before??
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Feb, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean Henri Chandler wrote:
Well I'm no expert but that seems quite heavy to me even for such a long sword...

J


It's on the heavy side, but not out of the realm of possibility or realism. Albion's Svante weighs 4 lbs and is 8 inches shorter. Of course, they're quite different swords, and my only purpose in mentioning it is to show that useable swords can be found in that weight range.

The Lutel longsword reviewed here weighed 4 pounds 4.25 ounces and is also shorter than the MRL. It laid waste to my forearms in cutting but was still quite functional.

There's a Type XVII sword with a ~34 inch blade that weighs almost 4 pounds.

There are/were functional historic and repro swords in that weight range.

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