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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Wed 10 Jan, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: WV roman scout         Reply with quote

http://www.airsoftwv.com/RomanHike_Jan07/

fun multi mile hike thru the forest last weekend. you can see yours truely with the red feathers in his cap Wink We were escorting the local celt leader and learning some new routes thru the forest
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Ville Vinje




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PostPosted: Wed 10 Jan, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Great pics Chuck!

It sure looks fun to be in the Legion. Nice outfits!
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Jan, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looked like too much fun, Chuck. Very nice kits. Wish we had a place like that to hike around here, but such is not to be, hehe. Thanks for sharing the pics.

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Jan, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Great Stuff, and a good way to find out how well you've actually interpereted the original kit. Nothing like marching a few miles and camping in it to discover all of the flaws in one's equipment, no? Big Grin

You guys REALLY look good... but somehow it seems as though there really should be fellows with Long Rifles in the background somewhere... Cool

Cheers!

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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Wed 10 Jan, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

it was a blast. truely it was.

you know, it is a lil bit of a pain to draw a pompii gladius from the right side.


oh, the pilum makes a great walking stick heheh as well as a trash or leaf pickeruper
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Martin Wallgren




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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Fantastic, even more pics than on RAT. You guys are lucky, we are as far as I know only two here in northen sweden who do Romans at all. But I hope to get down to some events in Europe this summer.
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Joe Fults




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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007 5:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Neat idea.
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007 7:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

How far did you hike? So what did you learn from your hike? Other then that bit about the pilum? I didn't notice any expensive hiking boots there, how did your feet hold up? What was your weight load? Did anything get particularly onerous to carry?
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Ed Toton




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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hey man, glad to see you guys had a good time and took lots of pics. Your roman kit is really looking good!
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks like great kit and a great time Chuck!

Who made your gladius?
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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jan, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrick Kelly wrote:
Looks like great kit and a great time Chuck!

Who made your gladius?


as to who made it, i'm not sure. its an india made one from findit armoury that i modified via Matt Amt's directions and period pompii gladius pictures. the blade is still a lil shiney for me, i may take a scotch bright pad to it.
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David Martin




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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jan, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Great idea - and great photos! The warriors look fierce and the Celtic princess is most fair.

I'm with Russ in that I'm curious regarding the details of what it was like to wear your kit. What was it like to hike in segmented armor?

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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jan, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

ok. i've requested the details on how far etc so I'll get that to you asap.

as far as hiking it was great. but in a segmentata make sure u got some room Wink mines a wee bit tight after the holiday feasts and it was hard getting deep breaths going uphill. the caligues were great to walk in. i never slipped at all. but the water and mud was SURE COLD on the toes Wink a lot of guys wore nailbinded socks and some even modern hiking boots... not me though, original to the core. the tunic was nice cause it was wool, but being open i didnt get over heated at all. the cloak i had was just a piece of wool pined. it kept sliding around and getting in teh way due to the bag and canteen. i think i'll improve my cloak a tad.

as to the bag and canteen. i will be usuing my fucra (T shaped pole that things go on) next time. it's gotta be easier than draggin off the shoulders or banging into the kneecap or my shield. surprisingly the feathers in my helm never got in teh way of branches etc Happy

thanks for the compliments. it truely was a great idea our centurion had. i'll be making more for sure. hopefully one time we'll camp out as well. hmmmmmm i'll let one of the guys in mail carry the tent and poles hehehe
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Paul Mullins





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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jan, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Russ Ellis wrote:
How far did you hike? So what did you learn from your hike? Other then that bit about the pilum? I didn't notice any expensive hiking boots there, how did your feet hold up? What was your weight load? Did anything get particularly onerous to carry?


Sorry, Chuck asked me to pop over and help answer these questions, and I am just now getting here.

Total distance covered was around 3 miles on moderately rough trail. I think the main thing gathered from the hike is that we are seriously out of shape if compared to Roman soldiers. A few had some equipment issues, but nothing thats was out of the ordinary even with modern gear.

We had 3 members wearing modern footwear, two because period footwear did not get made in time, and the other needed to wear boots to protect an injury.

As for wearing period footwear myself, I have hiked this trail and several others in the area in my caligae with no problems whatsoever. I do however plan on reitring this pair and making a new set of Roman footwear. I have worn these for nearly 2 years now hiking, and at reenactments. If you wear your shoes often, and keep them well conditioned they become fairly comfortable.

I think my total weight counting armour, and weapons was around 45 to 55 pounds.

The most uncomfortable piece for me was my shield. The back of my left hand was sore for days afterward. Also it tended to bang against my left knee making a nice purple bruise.

The Celtic princess is my wife, and she held up better than several of the other participants. She hikes with me on a regular basis so she is in her environment. Also thanks to her for the majority of the wonderful pictures posted.
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Russ Ellis
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jan, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Paul Mullins wrote:

Sorry, Chuck asked me to pop over and help answer these questions, and I am just now getting here.

Total distance covered was around 3 miles on moderately rough trail. I think the main thing gathered from the hike is that we are seriously out of shape if compared to Roman soldiers. A few had some equipment issues, but nothing thats was out of the ordinary even with modern gear.

We had 3 members wearing modern footwear, two because period footwear did not get made in time, and the other needed to wear boots to protect an injury.

As for wearing period footwear myself, I have hiked this trail and several others in the area in my caligae with no problems whatsoever. I do however plan on reitring this pair and making a new set of Roman footwear. I have worn these for nearly 2 years now hiking, and at reenactments. If you wear your shoes often, and keep them well conditioned they become fairly comfortable.

I think my total weight counting armour, and weapons was around 45 to 55 pounds.

The most uncomfortable piece for me was my shield. The back of my left hand was sore for days afterward. Also it tended to bang against my left knee making a nice purple bruise.

The Celtic princess is my wife, and she held up better than several of the other participants. She hikes with me on a regular basis so she is in her environment. Also thanks to her for the majority of the wonderful pictures posted.


Excellent thanks for the insight!

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