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Raymond Deancona





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PostPosted: Sat 07 Oct, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: deepeeka sword quality         Reply with quote

Can anyone give me any information on Deepeeka sword quality, both damascus and steel? I have been seeing alot of these at faires and re-enactment events, and some of their pieces "look" quite good, but how do they stand up to the rigors of re-enactment? Any actual experiences would be very helpful.
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Oct, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Some of the roman reenactors use a lot of Deepeekas product. Many of them seem to be satisfied with what they get. Anything I've ever seen of theirs from the medieval period has been shoddy at best and ridiculous at worst.
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Oct, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Like Patrick said, the roman guys don't seem to have much of a problem with them. Then again it seems they for the most part just use them as dress items and nothing more. Nate Bell picked up a celtic sword for the scabbard and we found out that the blade got thicker the closer to the point you got.

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George Hill




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PostPosted: Sat 07 Oct, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Shane Allee wrote:
Like Patrick said, the roman guys don't seem to have much of a problem with them. Then again it seems they for the most part just use them as dress items and nothing more. Nate Bell picked up a celtic sword for the scabbard and we found out that the blade got thicker the closer to the point you got.

Shane


Reverse distal taper? Eek! Eek! Surprised Surprised Surprised

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Oct, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

George Hill wrote:
Shane Allee wrote:
Like Patrick said, the roman guys don't seem to have much of a problem with them. Then again it seems they for the most part just use them as dress items and nothing more. Nate Bell picked up a celtic sword for the scabbard and we found out that the blade got thicker the closer to the point you got.

Shane


Reverse distal taper? Eek! Eek! Surprised Surprised Surprised


Most of the "medieval" blades italian reenactor are using are as such.

none has any knowledge of what a distal taper is.

I went to events this summer with a precision caliper....


Never seen a deltin, however, all czech copies or some italian made from San Marino (the tackiest medieval stuff you can get)
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Oct, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Laughing Out Loud Laughing Out Loud In reading Patrick's post, my sentiments exactly!

Bob
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Geoff Wood




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PostPosted: Mon 09 Oct, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

George Hill wrote:

Reverse distal taper? Eek! Eek! Surprised Surprised Surprised



I suppose that would be proximal taper. Maybe it did happen sometimes (as an experiment perhaps - rather like the wing on an XF-91).
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct, 2006 8:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Geoff Wood wrote:
George Hill wrote:

Reverse distal taper? Eek! Eek! Surprised Surprised Surprised



I suppose that would be proximal taper. Maybe it did happen sometimes (as an experiment perhaps - rather like the wing on an XF-91).


I think a reverse distal taper manages to turn a blade into a steel rod, since all the ones I have examined that show this phenomenon feel as such.

Which is quite obvious if you think it over a bit.

Idea
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Geoff Wood




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PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bruno Giordan wrote:
Geoff Wood wrote:
George Hill wrote:

Reverse distal taper? Eek! Eek! Surprised Surprised Surprised



I suppose that would be proximal taper. Maybe it did happen sometimes (as an experiment perhaps - rather like the wing on an XF-91).


I think a reverse distal taper manages to turn a blade into a steel rod, since all the ones I have examined that show this phenomenon feel as such.

Which is quite obvious if you think it over a bit.

Idea



So you get a sort of sharp edged club. Bet it hurts if you get hit with it.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

So you get a sort of sharp edged club. Bet it hurts if you get hit with it.

But if you have a sword with good geometry, it is quicker, and you can probably get to him first and not get hit with that "club" at all Big Grin
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Geoff Wood




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PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger Hooper wrote:
So you get a sort of sharp edged club. Bet it hurts if you get hit with it.

But if you have a sword with good geometry, it is quicker, and you can probably get to him first and not get hit with that "club" at all Big Grin


Very true. I'm not trying to claim here that swords getting thicker towards the end was common or sensible, only that it might, just, have been tried as an experiment, to see how it worked (hence my reference to the analogous situation in aeroplane wings with that particular prototype - it flew, but the idea never caught on, too many other problems).
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Edit. See this link if you're not familair with the plane referred to. Reverse of normal taper in both plan form and thickness.
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Graphics/XF-...101-01.gif
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