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Jared M. Olson




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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jun, 2006 11:00 pm    Post subject: Trim/Fletcher Leaf Blade         Reply with quote

Does anybody own one of the three Angus Trim/Christian Fletcher leaf-blades? (MS-2103, MS-2014, MS-2015) I really like the look of them and I was wondering what you think of them? Can you compare closely to an Oakeshott Type? Do they cut and thrust? I really like the idea of a cut/thrust sword (i.e. XVIII) and if this suits the bill, I might just have to place an order. Let me know what you guys think!
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jun, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Trim/Fletcher Leaf Blade         Reply with quote

Jared M. Olson wrote:
Does anybody own one of the three Angus Trim/Christian Fletcher leaf-blades? (MS-2103, MS-2014, MS-2015) I really like the look of them and I was wondering what you think of them? Can you compare closely to an Oakeshott Type? Do they cut and thrust? I really like the idea of a cut/thrust sword (i.e. XVIII) and if this suits the bill, I might just have to place an order. Let me know what you guys think!


Oakeshott didn't classify leaf blades.

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All but the most specialized swords cut and thrust. They do each to varrying degrees of effectiveness. The ATrim/Fletcher leaf blades are contemporary designs based on some shape cues of the past. They're not historical designs.

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Jared M. Olson




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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jun, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Misunderstanding?         Reply with quote

I realize that Oakeshott did not classify leaf-blades. I also realize that leaf-blades, while having some historical precedence, are largely contemporary and fantasy blades. This is not what I was asking. I simply wanted to know if the specific leaf-blades I mentioned are at all comparable in feel, handle, ability to any of those in Oakeshott's classification. Furthermore, I would imagine that any sword can both cut and thrust, but I also know that different swords are intended for different purposes. From what I have read, I understand that the XVIII was intended both for thrusting (through heavy armor) and cutting (through little or no armor). This is the type of sword I am interested in, and I am curious to know if the Fletcher/Trim swords would be up to the task. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jun, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm being far too literal here. My "helpful" reply wasn't at all helpful. My apologies Worried
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jun, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have an MS-2104, the short one. The best way to describe this sword is to say it is a Roman Gladius Hispaniensis with a Medieval hilt. It cuts and thrusts very well, and is very light and maneuverable.

As to their quality, the 2103 and 2104 have been around for a few years now, and I don't think I've ever seen one in any of the sword forum classified sections. Once they're bought, the owners hang on to them.
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Ken Jay




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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jun, 2006 8:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have both the 2103 and 2104. Both are excellent cut & thrust swords and are comparable in handling to most similarly weighted AT swords. You rarely see one these leafies for sale but there is one up on ebay now - item #6639158117.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jun, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You could compare the MS2103 to bronze age leaf blades, though I think they would handle very differently. Look here - http://www.bronze-age-craft.com/
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jun, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have the ms-2105 which I only cut 2 pool noodles with it a couple months after I got it about 2 + years ago...the blade is only sharpened about 15" from the tip back...handles great for a 43" sword!

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