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David Evans




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PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov, 2005 4:03 am    Post subject: Request         Reply with quote

Does anyone have any decent pictures of both late 16th Century Foot half armours or corlsets and "Pikemans' armour for the period 1600 to 1650 or there abouts. I'm looking to commission either a late 16th Century corslet for a pikeman in english service in the Low counties and/or Pike armour for English Civil war thats suitably loose in style for 1610 ish plus!

I've got all the Graz pictues I can find, which tend to be "German" style armours. English taste seems to run to the Peascod belly approach!
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov, 2005 6:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm sure Gordon will pipe in here soon enough, but I'll post up more of what I have on Monday. For now here's some bad picts of a corslet from the Chicago Art Institute. I was mainly trying to get images of the hook closures.


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PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov, 2005 2:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

David,

Here's a pic from Brassey's Master Class series of books called "LivingHistory", showing a ECW sergeant of pike in full gear.

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov, 2005 4:13 am    Post subject: Thanks         Reply with quote

Chris,
Than ks for that one...

William,
Thats a good picture of one of the Fairfax Battalia boys, Can't remember his soddin' name right name!
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Nov, 2005 7:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ok, I don't have nearly as many pictures as I thought I did. I'll continue to dig through some books at home to get some more for you this weekend. (Painting a nursery is taking all my free time right now - who knew painting the Hundred Acre Wood would be so difficult?)

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Mar, 2010 5:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Were the tassets that short? I thought they came down nearly to the top of the knee.

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David,

Here's a pic from Brassey's Master Class series of books called "LivingHistory", showing a ECW sergeant of pike in full gear.

Cheers,

Bill
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Mar, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well here is one by Mercenary Taylor's and the tassets look about mid thigh in length I think:
http://www.merctailor.com/catalog/product_inf...ucts_id=37

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Mar, 2010 5:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean Thibodeau wrote:
Well here is one by Mercenary Taylor's and the tassets look about mid thigh in length I think:
http://www.merctailor.com/catalog/product_inf...ucts_id=37


I've seen pictures of horseman's armor with knee cops attached to the tassets, but I'm referring to pikeman's armor, which was constructed quite diferently (tassets didn't articulate, attached differently to the breastplate, etc). All of the pictures I have seen of pikeman's armor have been on a stand. It took me quite a while to realize the breastplate is high-waisted.
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Mar, 2010 7:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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I've seen pictures of horseman's armor with knee cops attached to the tassets, but I'm referring to pikeman's armor, which was constructed quite diferently (tassets didn't articulate, attached differently to the breastplate, etc).


Have a look at Graz and the Zeughaus in Switzerland, pikemans armours also had three, four or five lame tassets that look like this hanress http://cgi.ebay.com/Nurnberg-Pikemans-Half-Ar...2c46585af3 Both armouries are positively filled with pikemans half armours like this.

This breast plate we own http://www.merctailor.com/originals.php?original_pk=81 may have been a higher quality half armour of this sort. It is of earlier 17th century date and the four rivets visible on the waist flange still have little leather washers remaining from the belts they secured to attach tassets to.


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English taste seems to run to the Peascod belly approach!


Actually the Graz armours have the same little residual peascods that the English ones do, the waist lines don't seem to be as deep on alot of continental examples as on some English pieces which leeds to a little different profile. You can see the residual peascod in both continental examples i've posted.
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Mar, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I am aware that tassets have been articulated in many times and places. I was referring specifically to the tassets on English Pikemen's armor from the English Civil War pictured above which are almost always made from two (one for each leg) large almost square pieces of metal with simulated lames.

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Mar, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Got it. Its worth remembering that large quantites of continental armour were imported during the ECW. Europe was just wrapping up the 30 Years War and had positively vast quantities of munitions armour avaliable, England was not necessarily flush with the stuff so bunches were purchased from the continent.
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