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Lee Watts




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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov, 2003 2:01 pm    Post subject: Roman Gladius "Mainz" Pattern (Steel to Steel) an         Reply with quote

after drooling at the rather expensive albion roman swords i found this little beauty

http://armsofvalour.com/miva/merchant.mv?Scre...ory_Code=R

anyone got any opinions good or bad about this Roman Gladius "Mainz" Pattern (Steel to Steel) sword?

thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov, 2003 2:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Compared to the Albion piece, there are few similarities. Do you intend to use it in reenactment?



The Albion Mainz



The other one

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov, 2003 5:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have a couple little problems with the "steel to steel" sword right off the bat:

Problem #1: That ain't a Mainz (correct spelling!). It's a Pompeii. The blade shape seems to be a pretty decent Pompeii pattern, which is fine; It just isn't a Mainz.
Problem #2: Those little steel ferrules (or whatever they are) bordering the grip, and that funky "gaurd" thing. Not really historically accurate.

It may be a perfectly fine working sword, it just doesn't measure up in terms of historical correctness.

Albion gladii are the best production gladii (in terms of historical accuracy and working performance) available. Save up if you must; you won't regret it.

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov, 2003 11:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's the Albion Pompeii for comparison:


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov, 2003 6:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I will throw in a plug about the Kris Cutlery gladius. I own one and have never been dissatisfied. It is a sharp and excellent cutter, light, and comes with a very nice wooden scabbard. It is 195.00 and here is a link, http://www.kriscutlery.com/Kris/medieval/roman.html
I had a review posted on the swordforums a while back (www.swordforum.com) if you are familiar.
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov, 2003 6:16 am    Post subject: Hi Lee,         Reply with quote

While running through Ebay i came across a couple of bits you might want to check out,
1,Gladius in the uk,£49.00,EN45 steel can be left blunt or sharpened,REF 2205713030,
2, it is named as a Bob Engnath blade (one of the sword gods)Blade only,REF2205752775, but if your keen on this ask around as to the authenticity as the great Bob Engnath sadly passed away,
Hope these help,
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov, 2003 6:18 am    Post subject: EN45 Gladius         Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Nov, 2003 6:30 am    Post subject: Listed as a blade by the great Bob Engnath,         Reply with quote

Pics courtesy of Polishguys on Ebay,
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Lee Watts




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PostPosted: Sun 30 Nov, 2003 10:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thanks guys you have made me totally change my mind .. and im back looking at the albion ones again Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Nov, 2003 10:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

check out the review, Albion Triumvirate of Gladii, if you haven't already.
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Nov, 2003 2:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hey Mr. Watts.Have you checked out the MRL Mainz Gladius?
That one looks pretty good to me. Not as high quality as the Albion of coarse but if i remember correctly same price range as the steel-to-steel, and more historically accurate.

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Nov, 2003 5:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Joel Chesser wrote:
Hey Mr. Watts.Have you checked out the MRL Mainz Gladius?
That one looks pretty good to me. Not as high quality as the Albion of coarse but if i remember correctly same price range as the steel-to-steel, and more historically accurate.


Actually, I have some problems with the MRL Mainz, as well. There are numerous minor inaccuracies -- the shape of the grip, the steel "gaurd plate", the funky ricasso, and (the biggest flaw IMHO) an incorrect scabbard (the MRL Mainz scabbard is not bad... for a Pompeii pattern scabbard). The Deepeeka Mainz gladius is superior to the Windlass in terms of accuracy, and includes a decent (albeit gaudy) correct-pattern Mainz scabbard (which is worth the price of the set, and works quite well with the Albion Mainz!!!).
The Kris Cutlery Gladius is a good sword for the price. It too has some inaccuracies (the brass "gaurd plate" should be inset into the gaurd, not on top as it is, and the scabbard should be covered with leather, which it's not).

But if you want a combination of accuracy, quality, and performance, you'll probably want to stick with the Albions.

Here's a great site if you want more information on the gladius:
http://www.larp.com/legioxx/gladius.html

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