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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Under armour to keep you cool.         Reply with quote

Just bought some under armour " Brand " tee shirts, one sleeveless and the other longsleeved.

Supposed to keep you cool under hot and difficult conditions for general sporting use.

I mention them here because this type of cloth that wick sweat away from the skin is supposed to help keep you cooler when wearing a Gambison and armour.

Just bought it and wearing it now as I type and it does feel cool ! will wear outside tomorrow and to the gym and will see if it does the job.

Not " historical " for the LH people but who has to know what you have under your armour if it keeps you from getting heat stroke. Razz Laughing Out Loud

Here is the web site if you want to have a look: http://www.underarmour.com/

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Those things were originally designed to be worn underneath body armor. I've tried them and think it's like wearing a garbage bag! Your mileage may vary. Big Grin
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Maybe my mileage DOES vary or they improved the product since it does seen comfortable by itself: I haven't tried it outdoors yet, we are having 100 F. degree weather and high humidity at the moment so if I use it tomorrow I should be able to compare to what being outdoors felt today !

Well the kevlar body armour is usually covered with some sort of plastic covering because wet kevlar looses some of its' bullet resistance. ( At least that was the state of things in the article I read about kevlar years ago. )

In other words kevlar armour doesn't breathe AT ALL !

A linen and cotton Gambison even with plate armour should breathe better than kevlar.

I will try the long sleeve version of " under armour " under my Gambison to see if it feels better than without.

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Aug, 2005 4:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrick Kelly wrote:
Those things were originally designed to be worn underneath body armor. I've tried them and think it's like wearing a garbage bag! Your mileage may vary.


I made it through Iraq without ever buying one, but I knew people who swore by them. I think a large part of it is whether or not a person likes that slick silky feel that those shirts have.


Jean Thibodeau wrote:
Well the kevlar body armour is usually covered with some sort of plastic covering because wet kevlar looses some of its' bullet resistance. ( At least that was the state of things in the article I read about kevlar years ago. )

In other words kevlar armour doesn't breathe AT ALL !


I'm not sure about the plastic. The inside of my kevlar body armor was lined with a nylon-like material, but the exterior did not seem to have any plastic treatment of any kind. Now, the kevlar helmet may very well be covered in plastic (it looks and feels a lot like fiberglass, but has a little bit more rubber-like texture). I will whole-heartedly agree, though, kevlar body armour does not breathe one little bit. It was a source of much grumbling and complaining.

Depending on personal preference, I think these could be very practical garments for wear under armour. The small collar on the t-shirts would also be a lot easier to conceal than a normal t-shirt collar. I think I'll stick with cotton, just to avoid being reminded of my little desert vacation. Happy

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Aug, 2005 8:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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It was a source of much grumbling and complaining.


It is for me on a daily basis. Especially when the temps are 100 degrees plus like they have been lately. I get grumpy. Big Grin I suppose it's better than a sucking chest wound!

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Aug, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrick Kelly wrote:
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It was a source of much grumbling and complaining.


It is for me on a daily basis. Especially when the temps are 100 degrees plus like they have been lately. I get grumpy. Big Grin I suppose it's better than a sucking chest wound!


Wouldn't it suck to get any chest wound?!? Laughing Out Loud

Sorry, I couldn't resist!

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Ruel A. Macaraeg





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PostPosted: Fri 05 Aug, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrick Kelly wrote:
Your mileage may vary. Big Grin


I get great mileage out of my Under Armours -- chicks seem to dig it! Maybe you just need to find the right color... Cool






On a more serious note, I also use them for wrestling/jiujutsu practice as they don't snag and allow you to slip out of holds more easily.
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Steve Grisetti




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PostPosted: Sat 06 Aug, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ruel A. Macaraeg wrote:
Patrick Kelly wrote:
Your mileage may vary. Big Grin


I get great mileage out of my Under Armours -- chicks seem to dig it! Maybe you just need to find the right color... Cool

Wow!! Ruel - you keep nice company!! But, rather than the Under Armours, it may also have something to do with having a "six pack" for abs, where some of us (like me) have a beer keg.
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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Sat 06 Aug, 2005 2:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ruel;

You may just have increased their sales of underarmour and as Steve said it might be the abs Wink

With a lot of us there is a risk of looking more like an overstuffed sausage Eek!

It does seem to work though to keep you Cool even if some of us won't look as Cool as you. Laughing Out Loud

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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you keep nice company!!


I only wish they would keep me...! Blush
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Aug, 2005 7:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello Jean,

So does it work? I am actually pretty interested in what you find out. Make sure you do some exercises in it, enough to work up a sweat.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Aug, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeff;

Haven't done any real work while wearing it and haven't tried it with gambison and armour but it does seem cooler when I'm outdoors these days ( Could be my imagination, but it does feel less clammy than wearing regular cotton. )

We have been having very high heat and high humidity this summer: 90 degree to 100 degree F.
Think Washington D.C. on a hot sticky day.

Let just say that 90 feels like 80 degrees ? Not scientific :loll:

The sleeless and loose is very good as casual clothes at least and was comfortable at the gym, the long sleeve close fitting one is O.K. if you don't mind the super smooth feel of the fabric and this is the one I would wear beneath armour: you might still find it warm but it should wick away the sweat from the surface of the skin making you feel dryer at least.

With high humidity it might not work as well as with just a dry heat.

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