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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul, 2005 1:17 pm    Post subject: Regarding the Hanwei baskethilts....         Reply with quote

This isn't so much a question about quality, but accuracy.

According the CAS site, the Hanwei baskethilts are based on pieces from Royal Armouries in England. I was wondering if anyone would happen to have any pictures of the basket the Hanwei Backsword Baskethilt is based on. I've never seen a similair hilt myself, and was wondering how accurate the Hanwei replica is, and just what the hilt really looks like.
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dear Thomas,

I recall someone finding the original and the Hanwei replica is fairly close (not perfect, but what do you expect at an entry level price?). However, read my comments on the mortuary sword thread. I bought a bunch of these for my school and they all broke due to historically inaccurate, shoddy construction, and what looked like bodgy steel.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I don't have them scanned, but I do have a couple pics of the original of the backsword. One is in Mazansky's British Basket-Hilted Swords and another in a book the name of which escapes me. The Hanwei looks like a fairly close copy of the original, if not exact in every way. The original is different in that the blade is marked Me Fecit Hounslow, indicating it's origins in the English blade-making center of Hounslow (this sword is English, not Scottish, no matter what various vendors want to tell you).

Maybe someone will come along with a scanned pic....

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

David Wilson wrote:
I don't have them scanned, but I do have a couple pics of the original of the backsword. One is in Mazansky's British Basket-Hilted Swords and another in a book the name of which escapes me. The Hanwei looks like a fairly close copy of the original, if not exact in every way. The original is different in that the blade is marked Me Fecit Hounslow, indicating it's origins in the English blade-making center of Hounslow (this sword is English, not Scottish, no matter what various vendors want to tell you).

Maybe someone will come along with a scanned pic....


It's in Mazansky's?? I have that book. Never spotted it. Do you know what page??
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul, 2005 3:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

English Horseman's Sword
About 1700, hilt of pierced and chiselled iron, the blade inscribed: ME FECIT HOUNSLOE
M.4-1956. Victoria and Albert Museum
Photo: The Spring 2004 London Park Lane Arms Fair, Article entitled: "Hounslow Hangers" by Anthony North.



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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul, 2005 3:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thomas Hoogendam wrote:
It's in Mazansky's?? I have that book. Never spotted it. Do you know what page??


Mazansky - page 146, G5c

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul, 2005 3:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Stephen Hand wrote:
Dear Thomas,

I recall someone finding the original and the Hanwei replica is fairly close (not perfect, but what do you expect at an entry level price?). However, read my comments on the mortuary sword thread. I bought a bunch of these for my school and they all broke due to historically inaccurate, shoddy construction, and what looked like bodgy steel.

Cheers
Stephen


I'm not sure if I want to buy the Hanwei replica. If I would it, it would probably be more as a collectors sword. I was more interested in seeing the original. As for Hanwei's quality: I've only been able to handle some of the swords of their Practical Japanese line. But those didn't really 'rock my world' or anything. Big Grin

Thomas MacDonald, thanks for that great picture, and for letting me know were it is in Mazansky's. Happy
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul, 2005 3:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Two from "British Basket-Hilted Swords", by Cyril Mazansky (2005), page 146.

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jan, 2019 1:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

So, there are three very similar baskethilts, one has Hounslow blade, what about the others? Are all made by the same workshop or did the style get copied by other makers?
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