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William P




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PostPosted: Tue 03 Nov, 2020 5:50 am    Post subject: will the real sword of charles V / I please stand up         Reply with quote

so, keep seeing this as 'sword of charles I/ V of spain in the 1500's
but most examples i find are marto sword wallhangers, what did the original look like? if a sword like this owned by charles even existed at all.

https://www.by-the-sword.com/images/product/large/501452_1_.jpg

https://www.by-the-sword.com/p-41753-sword-of-charles-v-carlos-i.aspx


so will the real sword of charles V / I please stand up
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Blaz Berlec




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PostPosted: Tue 03 Nov, 2020 6:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

From Spanish Arms and Armour, Being a Historical and Descriptive Account of the Royal Armoury of Madrid

Author: Albert F. Calvert

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/47878/47878-h/47878-h.htm

1713. TWO-HANDED SWORD OF CHARLES V.:


It seems the sword does exist, attribution is of course different matter.


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Iagoba Ferreira





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PostPosted: Tue 03 Nov, 2020 9:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sadly, the Real Armería doesn't have much presence in the digital world.

I managed to find an old drawing, which shows details aplenty:



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Jeff Cierniak




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PostPosted: Tue 03 Nov, 2020 9:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is a sexy fish tail pommel.
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Diego Peinado




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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov, 2020 7:15 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This is indeed "the" sword attributed to him, so widely copied. It's on permanent display.

Bear in mind that he was an arms and armor enthusiast, just like his grandfather Maximillian. "The" one sword of Charles I is hardly telling of anything, as he must have had hoards of them.



This one in particular was gifted by pope Clement VII for his coronation as emperor, as per Patrimonio Nacional's tweet on the subject.
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Iagoba Ferreira





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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov, 2020 10:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Diego Peinado wrote:


This one in particular was gifted by pope Clement VII for his coronation as emperor, as per Patrimonio Nacional's tweet on the subject.


I think that there must be some mistaken, as Leguina states that the one presented by the Pope had lost the guard:

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Merece por su procedencia, una especial mención, la hoja del estoque pontificio, enviado al Emperador por el Papa Clemente VII, el mismo que le acompañó en su entrada en Bolonia(22). Su hoja, de seis mesas y más de un metro de larga, presenta, por uno de los lados, las imagenes de San Pedro y San Pablo, sobre fondo pavonado, la inscripción con el nombre del donante, y fecha que corresponde al año de 1529.


http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/bib/historia/...adas.shtml

The blade, engraved "CLEMENS VII PONT MAX ANNO" can be seen in this gallery:

https://www.patrimonionacional.es/microsites/tordesillas/obras.htm
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