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James Goffin




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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan, 2019 12:25 pm    Post subject: Bayeux Maille         Reply with quote

Hey,

Does anyone know what type of armour is being depicted in the tapestry?
It's fairly clearly maille, but appears to be tight to the body and covers the inside leg



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Below the main fight there appears to be someone looting a body and removing the armour over the top of the bodies head

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Note the inside legs of the soldiers depicted
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Dan Howard




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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan, 2019 3:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

If this is an accurate rendition and the mail truly wrapped around the leg then we must conclude that nobody, on either side, wore a knee-length hauberk since none are shown. Even the English, who have no cavalry, are wearing the same short mail leggings. An alternate interpretation is that the rendition is inaccurate and everyone is wearing a regular hauberk that stops at the knee. The main exception would be those who are depicted wearing mail right down to their feet. These could be separate mail chausses.
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Len Parker





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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan, 2019 6:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

11th century anglo-saxon: http://warfare.gq/6C-11C/Harley_Psalter-f73v.htm Here it doesn't look like it wraps around the legs.
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Len Parker





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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan, 2019 6:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Does that look like a chinstrap?
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Len Parker





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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan, 2019 7:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It might be a beard. The Bible doesn't mention David holding him by the beard, but when David tells a story about killing a lion and a bear he says: "I caught him by his beard, and smote him, and slew him."

Has anyone seen any chinstraps in art before the 12th century?

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David Cooper




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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jan, 2019 12:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have often wondered about this leg wrapping of mail. Longer hauberks are split to facilitate riding and to give protection to the top of the legs without impeding movement too much. Is it possible that these long split portions were normally secured with ties? This would stop the mail flapping about and ensure greater protection for the thighs. Now ties could break or just not be done up all the time which would account for the variations we see in the historical record. I have always liked the idea of ties as they seem to make sense from a purely practical point of view. Mail that flaps about when running is uncomfortable and tiring to wear.
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