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A.J. Chalifoux





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PostPosted: Thu 29 Mar, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject: Heavy Cleaving Blades         Reply with quote

Many of us are familiar with the one- and two-handed cleaving weapons in the Maciejowski Bible, but there seem to be few surviving examples. I've found two that resemble cleavers shown in this text and others, but I'd like to see if anyone knows of any more floating around out there.

I've also included a few images of similar weapons not from the Maciejowski Bible.



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Mark Tan





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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr, 2018 11:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Heres one. The only info i have on it is "terra teutonica, 1360-1440


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Mark Tan





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PostPosted: Thu 05 Apr, 2018 12:01 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Also google beidana machetes. They closely resemble the bible choppers.
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Apr, 2018 6:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is a previous thread about beidanas/cleavers: https://myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=32368&highlight=beidana

The first image posted here is another depiction of the death of St. Peter Martyr, which seems to very often include this type of weapon...



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PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr, 2018 1:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I am afraid that I can offer nothing concrete, except that I suspect your title may be misleading.

I suspect they were not heavy. The Conyers falchion is a/the classic falchion with a blade 12cm wide at the end, but only 1.5mm thick.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr, 2018 2:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I didn't find the title misleading at all. I knew instantly from seeing the first photo, he was referring to the heavy-duty abilities of the weapons, not the actual weight of such. And I can imagine....heavy-duty indeed! Eek! ....McM
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