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Jean H





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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2018 7:41 am    Post subject: Authentic or Reproduction?         Reply with quote

Hello - I am trying to find out if these items I have are authentic or reproductions and was hoping one of you is knowledgeable enough to have an idea, or guide me on how or where to find out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Jean

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http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1903.JPG


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Jean H





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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2018 7:59 am    Post subject: Close Ups         Reply with quote

Here are links to close ups. Thanks

Pole Axe
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1842.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1843.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1845.JPG

Dagger
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1846.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1847.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1848.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1849.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1850.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1851.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1852.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1853.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1854.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1855.JPG

Axe 1
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1833.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1834.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1835.JPG

Axe 2
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1838.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1829.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1840.JPG
http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1841.JPG
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Mark Moore




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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2018 10:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Cast metal reproductions.....100%. Probably 1950's-70's. Worried ........McM
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Jean H





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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Mark. How can you tell? Just curious.
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Mark Moore




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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I've seen these pieces, and many others, for purchase at garage sales several times. (I'm a garage sale/flea market addict) And they all sell for between $5-$15 apiece. If you bought them as advertised ''original" pieces, I'm very sorry. I really hope you didn't get taken for a lot of money. Research is everything when it comes to real antiques. Wink ......McM
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Jean H





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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2018 5:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ok, thanks. I did not buy them. They were in a house I bought at auction with the contents. The house had been vacant but heated for 32 years. It was filled with tons of antiques from the family that built the house in 1901. What lead me to believe they are real is most of the stuff was from the late 1800's. They were clearly collectors back then, as everything was documented and some stuff was from the 1700's. They traveled all over the world and there was a lot of German stuff, which the dagger is. Lots of Nazi stuff and tons of civil war stuff. Would the bottom of the pole axe look like that if it were a reproduction?

http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1842.JPG
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Craig Peters




PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2018 6:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Jean,

The item you posted would most likely be termed a "halberd", rather than a "pole axe". For your reference, I have taken photos of two pages from George Neumann's Battle Weapons of the American Revolution showing authentic later 18th century halberds. When you compare and contrast with the halberd head you posted, please very carefully notice a) the appearance of the metal used and b) the style of the halberd heads.



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Jean H





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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2018 7:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I see, yes. Thanks. When I first tried researching all of them I found similar ones online that were authentic but recently couldn't find the same ones.
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Craig Peters




PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar, 2018 9:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean H wrote:
I see, yes. Thanks. When I first tried researching all of them I found similar ones online that were authentic but recently couldn't find the same ones.


I'd be curious to see the authentic weapons that looked similar to yours. Without being able to specifically identify these pieces as Mark did, I was certain they were fakes. As you can see from the images I posted, the overall style and feel is so strikingly different that it's fairly easy to identify them as fakes. This is why I wonder which genuine antiques look similar to this group as a whole.
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J.D. Crawford




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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar, 2018 4:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm not sure its fair to call them fakes or even reproductions - they are simply decorative pieces intended to hang over the fireplace etc.
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Jean H





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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar, 2018 11:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Craig - I was able to find one of them. I put it side by side with mine. http://dc-sports.com/axe.png

The color of mine is off in these photos. It is more of a silver color. Their piece says it is German. The dagger I have has the double headed eagle which is German too. http://dc-sports.com/IMG_1849.JPG
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Mark Moore




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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar, 2018 3:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I will say this---that axe is pretty sweet. I'd have that on display in a heartbeat. Wink ......McM
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Jean H





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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar, 2018 4:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I agree Mark, I'm definitely going to display them. I have to say though, I was really excited at the prospect of owning something that old. They are still really cool anyway 🙂
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar, 2018 5:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

They are all wonderful collector pieces. I know a fellow who collects nothing but items like those, and 'tourist' knives and swords from all over the world. Last time I checked with him, he had nearly 1000 pieces. Actually makes me kinda jealous...but, he's pretty much filthy-rich. Laughing Out Loud .....McM
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Lafayette C Curtis




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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr, 2018 2:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean H wrote:
Hi Craig - I was able to find one of them. I put it side by side with mine. http://dc-sports.com/axe.png


Unfortunately this only shows that the piece you have is a poor reproduction of the original. Look at the huge differences in the shape of the cutting edge and the fit between the socket and the haft.
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