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Harry Lindfors





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PostPosted: Mon 24 Apr, 2017 8:32 am    Post subject: Need help identifying two sabers         Reply with quote

Hello!

A friend of mine bought two sabers, of which he knows nothing of. My personal era of interest is medieval, so I, too, know next to nothing of these. I only had a few minutes to inspect them, and take a few hasty pictures, so here they are

The first is a double-edged saber, both edges sharpened the entire length of the blade. No markings that I could see anywhere:










The second is hanger sword, there appears to be a myriad of these from the 18th and 19th centuries. No markings whatsoever, except perhaps something on the left side of the blade near the handguard:











Any help or guidance to the right direction will be greatly appreciated.
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Glen A Cleeton




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PostPosted: Mon 24 Apr, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Both have a Scandanavian look to them. The cast gripped one actually likely later. I've lost both my Danish and Swedish museum links.

Cheers

GC
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Niels Just Rasmussen




Location: NykÝbing Falster, Denmark
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Apr, 2017 1:25 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Without being an expert the second sword's blade looks most like being a Swedish Huggare (Cutlass) Model 1748.
See: https://digitaltmuseum.se/011024412897/huggare-m-1748?aq=owner%3A%22S-AM%22+topic%3A%22huggare%22&i=18

Though the hilt seems to look more like the Danish M/1753 infantry (Musketer) saber.
See: http://norskevaapen.no/?p=916

Denmark actually produced the type again with M1834 and M1838 infantry sabres.
See: https://www.arma-dania.dk/public/timeline/_AD_blankvaben_view.php?editid1=15
See: https://www.arma-dania.dk/public/timeline/_AD_blankvaben_view.php?editid1=16

Apparently a lot of the older swords also got replacements blades.
It strangely doesn't have any typical Danish nor Swedish markings on the guard nor the blade as far as I can see.
Could it be a Danish hilt with a Swedish blade? Perhaps a Norwegian post 1815 composite?

Yet you have so many of these swords looking very much like each other and where the some type shows lot of individual variance as well
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Niels Just Rasmussen




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PostPosted: Wed 26 Apr, 2017 1:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

As for the first sword it doesn't look like any Danish one (or Norwegian post 1814) I could find, so maybe a Swedish.

The blade looks like a shortened Swedish M/1825 cavalry saber.
See: https://digitaltmuseum.se/011024391355/sabel-m-1825?aq=owner%3A%22S-AM%22+text%3A%22sabel%22%2C%22m%2F1825%22&i=13

The hilt and guard is closer to, but not quite a Swedish M/1842 cavalry saber (the blade of this type is quite different though).
See: https://digitaltmuseum.se/011024398655/sabel-m-1842?aq=owner%3A%22S-AM%22+text%3A%22sabel%22&i=15
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M. Nordlund




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PostPosted: Wed 03 May, 2017 9:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Niels Just Rasmussen wrote:
As for the first sword it doesn't look like any Danish one (or Norwegian post 1814) I could find, so maybe a Swedish.

The blade looks like a shortened Swedish M/1825 cavalry saber.
See: https://digitaltmuseum.se/011024391355/sabel-m-1825?aq=owner%3A%22S-AM%22+text%3A%22sabel%22%2C%22m%2F1825%22&i=13

The hilt and guard is closer to, but not quite a Swedish M/1842 cavalry saber (the blade of this type is quite different though).
See: https://digitaltmuseum.se/011024398655/sabel-m-1842?aq=owner%3A%22S-AM%22+text%3A%22sabel%22&i=15



The top one looks like a less fancy version of this Swedish officers sabre from the end of the 18th century:

http://www.probusauktioner.se/auktion/objectW...ril%202015

Also very similar guard to this swedish naval "underofficers sabre" from the same period:
http://www.tradera.com/item/292217/279581409/...abel-sabel

but the side plate seems to sweep down lower on the one Harry is asking about.
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