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Tim Mathews




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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr, 2016 1:13 pm    Post subject: Massive Spear Head at the Met in NY         Reply with quote

Greetings all,
I am hoping that someone at there has a couple of decent photos of the massive spear head at the Met ... I want to say it was Iron age Celtic - basically it looked like the later boar spearheads but on a huge scale.
I am looking to have a friend recreate it with pattern welded steel.
Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr, 2016 8:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Your description is rather vague, so I'm having a hard time figuring out which one you mean. Is it on display in the Arms and Armor section, and if so do you remember the specific gallery? Could it have been in one of the other curatorial departments, by any chance? You really ought to get the accession number off the gallery label so we can look it up on the web.
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr, 2016 10:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

184 spearheads at the Met
http://www.metmuseum.org/search-results#!/sea...amp;page=1

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr, 2016 10:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/22196

Is it this one?

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2016 6:30 am    Post subject: Spearhead at the Met         Reply with quote

Good morning,
First off thanks very much for all of your responses.I apologize for the vagueness of my description... I was there 4 years ago - I do not remember the gallery #.It was a bronze or iron spearhead with lugs - again similar to a later boar spear. I went through the gallery of 184 spearheads - there are several where there does not seem to be a picture - It must be one of those as it is not any of the others shown.
Any additional help is greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2016 6:31 am    Post subject: Spearhead         Reply with quote

Matthew P. Adams- Sadly - no. Thanks for your reply.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2016 6:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Possibly listed as a partisan, perhaps? Only 118 results for those.
http://www.metmuseum.org/search-results#!/sea...amp;page=1

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2016 7:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart Shearer Thanks for your response - The piece I am looking for is a bronze or iron age spear head .I did go through the gallery of Partisans (thanks very much for posting this)but it is not there.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2016 11:24 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tim Mathews wrote:
Mart Shearer Thanks for your response - The piece I am looking for is a bronze or iron age spear head .I did go through the gallery of Partisans (thanks very much for posting this) but it is not there.


Sometimes they categorize things in an odd way, like the 5th century B.C. "halberds" showing up beside 15th century examples. Sorry it didn't help. Quite likely it's one of the records without a picture.

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2016 2:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Perhaps this one labeled as a "dagger or halberd blade 1000-500 B.C." I'm not clear how this would have been hafted.

-A.

edit: Not likely since it is far from "massive".



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Tim Mathews




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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2016 4:23 pm    Post subject: Spearhead         Reply with quote

M. Adair Orr That is a bronze sword or large dagger- scales would have been riveted to the tang I think.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr, 2016 12:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have found this spear in the wulflund catalog:
https://www.wulflund.com/living-history/europe/celtic-spear-large-and-wide.html/
It is certainly massive at 44 cm of length, but I don't know if they copy it from a period piece.

The other find is from the musem catalog, a bronze piece very beautiful:
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/1998.540.1/
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr, 2016 8:56 am    Post subject: Spearhead         Reply with quote

Gabriele A. Pini Thanks very much for your reply - I saw this piece in the Gallery that one of the other Forumites posted ... Sadly this is not the piece I am after ... It had lugs beneath the blade similar to the later Boar spears.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr, 2016 1:38 pm    Post subject: Spearhead at the Met         Reply with quote

Hello again
So I have compiled a list of Accession #s with any additional information listed from the gallery of spearheads kindly provided previously on this thread. Does anyone know if it is possible for me to contact someone at the Met to see if there are images available for these items ?
Thanks
Tim

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