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Andreas M





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PostPosted: Thu 03 Dec, 2015 10:40 am    Post subject: Dusägge around 1600         Reply with quote

Dear all,

is this an authentic weapon or a later reproduction?
Any opinion welcome.

Kind regards
Andreas



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Mike Ruhala




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PostPosted: Thu 03 Dec, 2015 12:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Do you have any other pics of the hilt? It's hard for me to make out the details but there's something about the areas where the various pieces of the guard come together that looks like modern manufacturer to me. The oxidation looks recent, too.
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Andreas M





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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec, 2015 2:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the answer. I don´t have better images, but in another forum I got the information that it is indeed a copy.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec, 2015 10:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Andreas M wrote:
Thanks for the answer. I don´t have better images, but in another forum I got the information that it is indeed a copy.


Frankly, it's a bit hard to tell from those photos alone. Are there red flags? Sure... but these are later-period pieces and of a style that is often somewhat "sloppy" in execution.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec, 2015 10:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What do you mean with Red Flags?

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec, 2015 11:00 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Andreas M wrote:
What do you mean with Red Flags?


There's things like shape, proportion, patination, and whatnot that serve as ref flags or concerns that the piece might not be from the period it is supposed to represent. These photos aren't enough to definitively answer any questions that these red flags raise.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec, 2015 11:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Okay, got it. Yes, the pics are bad. I asked for more/better ones, but didn´t get a reply yet.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec, 2015 3:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I would suggest that you look at the other items that he has for sale. This can be a good indicator to his skill level in weeding out fakes. If you have concerns about anything in his inventory, then I would find a new dealer.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec, 2015 3:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Don Stanko wrote:
I would suggest that you look at the other items that he has for sale. This can be a good indicator to his skill level in weeding out fakes. If you have concerns about anything in his inventory, then I would find a new dealer.


I have concerns about his inventory.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec, 2015 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Dusägge around 1600         Reply with quote

Andreas M wrote:
Dear all,

is this an authentic weapon or a later reproduction?
Any opinion welcome.

Kind regards
Andreas


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Field Sabre, German, with clasp basket, circa 1630. Curved single-edged blade with double-sided, narrow double fuller. Iron basket hilt with beautiful openwork guard plate. Thumb ring. Handle winding of iron wire and braided ferrules. 89cm.

This sword was used primarily in the Turkish wars to the south-eastern borders of the "German Empire".
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Dec, 2015 12:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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I have concerns about his inventory.


Me too.
And some of the images are from auction catalogues...
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