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Patryk Nieczarowski
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2015 6:56 am    Post subject: Late 12th. cen. full-faced helmet, raised. FOR SALE         Reply with quote

Hello Happy

Here's raised flat-topped full-faced helmet. This one is based on the relief from Lyngsjo church (Sweden).
Here's some info about:
http://www.warfare.altervista.org/12/Lyngsjo.htm
I made it because I really like that zig-zag edged visor ...very bizarre Big Grin ...and I really like that period.

The bowl raised in single piece of black steel, 2-2,5 mm thick. The visor 2 mm thick.
Inner size (without padding): 70 cm circumference, 20,5x23,5 cm diameters

Cost including postage (Europe) ...388 Euro




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2015 9:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks pretty good, Patryk! I am also very interested in this period and had never seen the font from the Lyngsjo church. Thank you for sharing the historical information with the new helmet. If you make another one I would recommend adding more material to the sides of the visor, as suggested in the original carving as well as most other contemporary artwork depicting such helmets.

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Patryk Nieczarowski
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2015 9:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thanx Happy

...abut the visor ,that's why I made as I made (below) ...there's not too many material ...I just added little bit my own style maybe...but general context is the same
I had some problem with the nasal ...but I like simply soloutions Happy



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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2015 10:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ah, ha! I was looking at the other fellow with this style of helmet, show in this panel... You should have made this one! Ha.

http://www.warfare.altervista.org/12/Lyngsjo-2.htm
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Viktor Asenov
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2015 12:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is another source about that shaped helmet visor: http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4930/14732/
There is another one,but i can not remember where I have seen it...

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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2015 3:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think it's a wonderful achievement! The question of how much material to leave at the outside edge seems to depend on source, as sometimes we see a cross-bar on the nasal without it connecting back at all....
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4821/10241/
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4821/10246/
....and at others, forming a rudimentary face mask.
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4821/10239/

Some of the color depictions do seem to show the brow band as heavily decorated, and/or copper-alloy, like Viktor's example or the Hortus deliciarum copy.



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PostPosted: Thu 01 Oct, 2015 10:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart, perhaps I'm just more inclined towards those that have a bit more material around the edges! Those that have the nasals that don't even reach all the way back up to the sides of the face are also very neat, though, and provide an excellent transitional look.

I'm considering starting a thread about what a c. 1200 Eastern Scandinavian man-at-arms would appear like on the battlefield. Between Patryk's lovely reconstruction here and my resurrection of the thread about the inlayed Finnish swords from the era, many other questions spring to mind! Check the main forum... Cheers!

Once again, good luck with your sale, Patryk!

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Patryk Nieczarowski
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 7:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thanx Happy

I don't expect quick sale ,because it's not popular kind of stuff ...but I'm not hurry
...helmet is still available

och, thanx Victor for interesting img. ...looks much bizarre than mine Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 9:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Viktor Asenov wrote:
Here is another source about that shaped helmet visor: http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4930/14732/
There is another one,but i can not remember where I have seen it...

Viktor


The enlarged nasal, rather than side attachment variant, but with lobed edge.
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/5005/15588/

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Harry Marinakis




PostPosted: Thu 22 Oct, 2015 11:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I really like this helmet.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jan, 2016 3:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

helmet is stil available ...

...we've new year aleady, so I can make BETTER OFFER for this stuff ...ask via priv Big Grin

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jan, 2016 2:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

it looks like the helmet is not available already Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jan, 2016 3:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It's MINE! Big Grin
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Feb, 2016 10:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I received the helmet yesterday
It's a work of art
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Matt Corbin




PostPosted: Sun 07 Feb, 2016 7:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Congratulations. Post some pictures when you get a chance.
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