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Jasmin Slade




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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug, 2015 8:32 am    Post subject: Shield of Henry11 from France         Reply with quote

Hi all, I have come across a shield,depictingthat of Henry11 of France. The markings on the shield identifies the scene as the french siege of Boulogne-sur-Merin 1545. If any one has more information about the shield, please notify me as I would like to know if it's a knock-off (fake) or is really a work of art.
I do have pictures of my shield,but am unable to post them.l from my mobile.

Charmaine Jasmin Slade
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Stephen Curtin




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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug, 2015 2:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Jasmin. Is this the shield you're referring to?

http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-colle...rch/23948g

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Gregory J. Liebau




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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug, 2015 3:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Stephen Curtin wrote:
Hi Jasmin. Is this the shield you're referring to?

http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-colle...rch/23948g


I've noticed that the Met website does not allow direct links to individual items in the collection, for some reason... Might want to try some other method!

-Gregory
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J.T. Aliaga




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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug, 2015 4:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Stephen Curtin wrote:
Hi Jasmin. Is this the shield you're referring to?

http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-colle...rch/23948g



Try this

http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-colle...arch/23948

The battle scene at the center is thought to depict the victory of Hannibal and the Carthaginians over the Romans in Cannae in 216 B.C., which here could be interpreted as an allusion to the struggle of France against the Holy Roman Empire during the sixteenth century. In the strapwork borders are the intertwined letters: H for Henry II (reigned 1547–59); C for Catherine de Médicis, his queen; and possibly also D for Diane de Poitiers, his mistress. Interspersed with the initials are crescents, the king's personal badge and a reference to the moon goddess Diana and her namesake Diane de Poitiers.
The design is very similar to a series of drawings for the decoration of armor attributed to Etienne Delaune, Jean Cousin the Elder, and Baptiste Pellerin, all artists active in Paris.
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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug, 2015 6:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gregory J. Liebau wrote:
Stephen Curtin wrote:
Hi Jasmin. Is this the shield you're referring to?

http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-colle...rch/23948g


I've noticed that the Met website does not allow direct links to individual items in the collection, for some reason... Might want to try some other method!

-Gregory


Yes, there is a permalink for individual items.

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Gregory J. Liebau




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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug, 2015 7:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart Shearer wrote:
Yes, there is a permalink for individual items.


Thanks, Mart! I hadn't noticed it linked under the images on the item pages before.

-Gregory
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Aug, 2015 12:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I was researching electroforming a few years ago, and ran across replicas of the Henry II shield that might have been done in the 19th century, presumably in a form moulded from the original (but I can't be sure on that). A typical electroform will be a core of copper as it deposits cleanly, with an electroplated coating of something like nickel for the surface colour. Apparently electroforming things like shields as wall display pieces was a "thing" at one time.
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Jasmin Slade




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PostPosted: Tue 08 Sep, 2015 12:15 am    Post subject: Shield of Henry 11 of France         Reply with quote

Good Morning All.

A while back I posted a query with regards to the shield of King Henry the 2nd of France.

I did receive feedback, even though I had no pics.

Please could someone assist me in giving me a ball park figure as to an estimate of said shield in order for me to determine whether or not I can insure the shield.

I do live in South Africa and unfortunately no-one is able to assist me in my Country.

I had the someone look at the materials that were used to manufacture the shield and was informed that it is made of:

* Copper
* Alloy
* Steele

Attached are a few pics, hoping to hear from you soon.

Thanking You and Kind Regards.

Jasmin Slade



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Shield of King Henry11 of France

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Dan Howard




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PostPosted: Tue 08 Sep, 2015 12:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That looks like a late 19th century "Trophy Shield" made in a neo-Renaissance style. They aren't real shields - they were meant as decoration to be hung on a wall.
https://sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/33792/19th-century-trophy-shield

Peter is right; they seem to be made by electroforming (the copper is a good clue). Ornaments like this tend to go for a couple of thousand pounds at auction.

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