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Alexis Bataille




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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jul, 2015 2:44 am    Post subject: Sabers and cloth protections         Reply with quote

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Even if heavy cloth protect you from saber cuts, saber was preferred over straight sword when metallic armour fell out of fashion. Can we say that saber is more efficient than straigth sword against heavy cloth ? There must be a limit to the point where heavy fabric armour like jack/gambeson is completely proof against saber cut ?
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jul, 2015 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Sabers and cloth protections         Reply with quote

Alexis Bataille wrote:
saber was preferred over straight sword when metallic armour fell out of fashion. Can we say that saber is more efficient than straigth sword against heavy cloth ?


No I'm afraid that we can't say that, because sabers were not preferred over straight swords, when metallic armour fell out of fashion. Straight swords, e.g. broadswords and backswords, continued to to popular in the 17th and 18th centuries.

Alexis Bataille wrote:
There must be a limit to the point where heavy fabric armour like jack/gambeson is completely proof against saber cut ?


Yes there must be. Unfortunately I don't know what that limit is.

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The last official cavalry sword patterns for the British Army were the 1908 and 1912 (Officer's) swords. These were both straight, thrust only swords. So for the British Army at least the debate between thrust and cut was won by thrusting swords.
For the rest of us the debate still continues Big Grin

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Mind that in World War I many cavalry troopers (especially in the Middle East) sharpened their 1908s to make highly serviceable cut-and-thrust swords.
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