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Christopher B Lellis




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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun, 2015 5:39 pm    Post subject: Taking pommels off in a duel and throwing them?         Reply with quote

Here are the manuscripts. A German manuscript called Gladitoria group. It's currently in an Austrian museum.

Here is the main page
http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Gladiatoria_%28MS_KK5013%29

And here is the specific drawing I am talking about
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ms._KK5013_06r.jpg

The duelist clearly popped his pommel off and is throwing it.
This is strange to me because first off, it diminishes the sword by offsetting the balance, although a thrown pommel to an unarmored head might be dangerous, against a full armor suit I don't see the point of doing that. How did he get the pommel off?

Unless it was poorly peened, it shouldn't just pop off at your whim. They are on there pretty tightly. It usually takes a specialized tool to take them off that has much more force than a human hand trying to torque it off or pull it off.

This is just.. weird.
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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun, 2015 6:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

See this thread, and Nathan's links to others on the same topic.

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=16868

ferrum ferro acuitur et homo exacuit faciem amici sui
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Christopher B Lellis




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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun, 2015 6:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart Shearer wrote:
See this thread, and Nathan's links to others on the same topic.

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=16868


Well well... Here I come thinking I made some discovery, only to see that it was posted 6 years ago. I should of known.
Threaded pommels in 1430? Interesting, that's new to me.

Thanks for the link. Big Grin
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Patrick Kelly




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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun, 2015 7:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Matt Easton has some views on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKIuKev_2ZA

"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Tyler Jordan





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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun, 2015 8:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It's become a 'thing' on Skallgrim's youtube.

End him rightly!

Also it's probably a joke page. They did that sometimes.
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