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Jon K.




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PostPosted: Thu 26 Mar, 2015 9:02 pm    Post subject: Del Tin Rapiers         Reply with quote

Alot of reviews from various sources say their ok, for their price point. I think this might have been said when they were significantly cheaper. With a price point of $600+ (easily) on KoA, are they worth it In terms of quality, functionality, and historical accuracy. In some cases I could spend $150-200 more on A&A. I like some of the Del tin designs. Thoughts?
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Edward Lee




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PostPosted: Fri 27 Mar, 2015 1:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

IMO I think del tin rapiers are very expensive, almost all of them runs $600+, and some of them are also quite heavy. This is just a personal opinion, but if Hanwei rapiers are still around, I might just pick it up instead of a del tin rapier. I mean sure the hanwei blades are really flexible but the price difference out weights the quality difference between hanwei rapier and del tin rapier.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Mar, 2015 7:24 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Edward Lee wrote:
IMO I think del tin rapiers are very expensive, almost all of them runs $600+, and some of them are also quite heavy. This is just a personal opinion, but if Hanwei rapiers are still around, I might just pick it up instead of a del tin rapier. I mean sure the hanwei blades are really flexible but the price difference out weights the quality difference between hanwei rapier and del tin rapier.


That's just the thing! There doesn't seem to be any middle ground on historical accuracy and function as far as manafacturers out there. I love the design of many of the Hanwei's and the prices are good, but I would imagine the blades are too wippy to be functional for the syles of the period they were designed. The funny thing is I am no history buff nor am I practioneer of Wma, I just want to hold something in my hand that would have a very similar design and function of the period it was designed for. That's kinda what I'm looking for in my collection. I really like the design of 16th and 17th and later period rapier of Del Tin. They're expensive. If I save a little more I'm sure I can get an A&A, but isn't there a compromise. It's such a huge jump in price from Hanwei to Del Tin/Arms & Armor.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Mar, 2015 8:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

have you looked into Darkwood Armory? They are mostly less than $600.00. The blades aren't sharp, of course. It's the place many reenactors go to get their rapiers.
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Edward Lee




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PostPosted: Fri 27 Mar, 2015 2:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

If you are looking for good quality sharp rapiers, AA is the way to go.
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Apr, 2015 7:15 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger Hooper wrote:
have you looked into Darkwood Armory? They are mostly less than $600.00. The blades aren't sharp, of course. It's the place many reenactors go to get their rapiers.


I second this. Buy a Hanwei for the hilt and get blade from DA. And DA will make sharp blades if you request.
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Apr, 2015 8:18 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Darkwood armory makes sharp blades?
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Apr, 2015 4:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Scott at Darkwood will make pretty much anything you want. Be sure, however, to be clear about what it is that you do want. If you want something historically accurate, tell him you want living-history quality. Do note, however, that his prices can approach Del Tin's and A&A's for that kind of custom work.

You may already be aware that Kult of Athena has a Del Tin rapier in the Damaged & Blow Out section. Apparently somebody messed up badly while attempting to sharpen it, so it's on sale at a considerable discount. If you happen to like that model and if you're handy, you could regrind the blade to correct the mistakes; or you could order a new blade from Darkwood and mount it on the Del Tin's hilt. Mounting a Darkwood blade would also allow you to choose a blade length that suits you.

Personally I like Arms & Armor and Darkwood weapons. Many Del Tins seem to have been designed with stage use in mind, and they can be clunky.

I hope that this proves helpful.

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Mark Millman
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Apr, 2015 12:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Watch the Marketplace here for some steals on pre-owned A&A
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Apr, 2015 7:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I don't know the prices, but Jesse Belsky is making some nice stuff.

A&A are very good and well worth the money.

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Apr, 2015 8:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Danelli Armouries also makes some interesting hilts.
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