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Rim Andries




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PostPosted: Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:33 pm    Post subject: Portraits of people with swords.         Reply with quote

The celebs with swords thread gave me an idea.

How about this for a new topic? People and swords. And portraits of them. I am thinking kings, soldiers, the occasional band of mercenaries... you name it. Via camera or paintbrush. Either way is cool. Self portraits are highly recommended!

I will start...

This portrait is taken from sabels.net. I translated the information that came with it.

It is an old group photo from ca. 1923 of the dutch marechaussee. Taken in Nieuwstadpoort in Zutphen. No less than four different types of sabre can be seen carried by the men: a cavalry sabre M1895 on the bottom left, a cavalry sabre M1876 next to that, a marechaussee klewang next to that and the middle man on the bottom row has a walking(?)sabre KL 1912.



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PostPosted: Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ps I am not suggesting that celebrities are not people.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Jan, 2015 8:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Good old wikipedia Wink

"Maurice of Nassau (Dutch: Maurits van Oranje; 14 November 1567 – 23 April 1625) was sovereign Prince of Orange from 1618, on the death of his eldest half brother, Philip William, Prince of Orange, (1554–1618). He was stadtholder of the United Provinces of the Netherlands (except in the province of Friesland) from earliest 1585 until his death in 1625.

Maurice organised the Dutch rebellion against Spain into a coherent, successful revolt and won fame as a military strategist. He set out to revive and revise the classical doctrines of Vegetius and pioneered the new European forms of armament and drill."


Here he is painted by:


"Michiel Jansz. van Mierevelt, Mierveld or Mireveldt (1566 – 27 June 1641) was a Dutch Golden Age painter.

Van Mierevelt was born and died in Delft, as a son of a goldsmith, who apprenticed him to the copperplate engraver Hieronymus Wierix. Though Mierevelt is chiefly known as a portrait painter, he also executed some mythological pieces of minor importance. Many of his portraits have been reproduced in line by the leading Dutch engravers of his time."



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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jan, 2015 12:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

An exhaustive list of photographed individuals with swords would be a lot of work but here are a few of interesting military men and women. I have several dozen photos in files.

Cheers

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Heros von Borcke; rode with the confederates in the American Civil War

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Franz Sigel: Federal officer figured in several notable ACW battles

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George Patton; as a Lt Col with his trademark sword

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Charles Norton; ACW with a non regulation militia sword

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Rhode Island Patriot, Kady Southwell Brownell. Woman fighting in the ACW
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jan, 2015 9:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Henry Savill Marsham pictured as a lieutenant with the 60th Kings Royal Rifle Corps (c.1870) , and his sword as it appears today.


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jan, 2015 10:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Richard Burton (the 19th century adventurer, not the actor)


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jan, 2015 7:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's a cover from a book featuring Gustavus von Tempsky, a East Prussian who ended his days fighting against Maori during the Taranaki wars, he was said to have went to the aid of a fallen comrade and took a musket shot in the forehead.


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan, 2015 3:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nice stuff guys. I especially like the photographs of people who may or may not have had to use their swords in earnest. There is just something about them that seems to bridge the gap between the now and the yesterday of swords and their use like nothing else could. It brings it closer to home I guess...

Let's keep them coming!



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This man deserves a spot. Ewart Oakeshott.

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But the picture itself is so magnificent, I just couldn't resist. The X factor on these guys is through the roof.


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan, 2015 3:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Johannes Liechtenauer, presumably, holding a fechtschwert in Von Danzig's treatise of 1452.


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan, 2015 6:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Great thread idea, here are a couple of early sixteenth century portraits with great looking swords in them.


CAVAZZOLA
Warrior with Equerry
1518-22
Oil on wood, 90 x 73 cm
Galleria degli Uffizi, Florence


CARPACCIO, Vittore
Portrait of a Knight
1510
Tempera on canvas, 218 x 152 cm
Museo Thyssen-Bornemisza, Madrid


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here are a couple of Albrecht Durer drawings


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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan, 2015 7:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Raman A wrote:
Great thread idea, here are a couple of early fifteenth century portraits with great looking swords in them.


I think you mean early sixteenth century Wink Those are wonderful though. Especially the first one. The armour looks absolutely beautiful and completely menacing at the same time, and the sword... wow... I can't recall having seen anything like it before. That is a zweihander, correct?

Cheers.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan, 2015 8:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger Hooper wrote:
Here are a couple of Albrecht Durer drawings


Durer might just be my favourite artist of all time. Along with Escher, Bacon, Breugel, Bosch, Michelangelo, da Vinci, Rembrandt, Van Gogh, Dali, Picasso and a couple of others of course Wink thanks for posting.

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Jan, 2015 4:52 pm    Post subject: Portraits of people with swords         Reply with quote

Now it's my turn...
German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) in 1868, when he voluntarily served as an artilleryman in the Naumburg Field Artillery Regiment for 1 year.

“You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength”

- Marcus Aurelius
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Jan, 2015 6:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Willem van Heythuszen, by Franz Hals, 1625


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PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan, 2015 8:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have shown it in another thread earlier, but Danish/Norwegian King Christian the Fourth on horse with his battle-sword drawn.

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Feb, 2015 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: Portraits of people with swords         Reply with quote

Shahril Dzulkifli wrote:
Now it's my turn...
German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) in 1868, when he voluntarily served as an artilleryman in the Naumburg Field Artillery Regiment for 1 year.


Cool find!

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Feb, 2015 4:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Niels Just Rasmussen wrote:
I have shown it in another thread earlier, but Danish/Norwegian King Christian the Fourth on horse with his battle-sword drawn.



What a weird sword! How would you label it? Looks like a cross between a longsword, swiss sabre and a katzbalger...

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Feb, 2015 7:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Rim Andries wrote:
What a weird sword! How would you label it? Looks like a cross between a longsword, swiss sabre and a katzbalger...


Made a thread where the sword was discussed. The sword has survived and you can see a small you tube video where it is presented. In the end of the thread I also found a picture of it.
http://myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=30798&highlight=

So it seems to be a forerunner of the Walloon or Pappenheimer type sword.....
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Feb, 2015 7:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Found an old photograph of Danish soldiers from the 3rd infantry regiment on Als in the Slesvig-Holsten war of 1864.

Picture: http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/interview/18...e-baghoved
Love those pipes and several soldiers have their swords casually in or by hand.
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