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Karl Knisley




PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 3:22 pm    Post subject: your opinion: With or Without         Reply with quote

Hello
I just got my new Machiavelli,and it is wonderous:-) But the pommel seems kindof naked. I thought I might glue some, carved, natural ruby flowers and silvered settings into the pommel? Whats your call?And what kind of glue would be best?

Thanks in advance



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Ken Jay




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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 3:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm kinda a no frills type so I'd say leave her as is. What's your take on the sword? Handling? I've eyed this one for a side sword.
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Karl Knisley




PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 3:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello
Its the smoothest/fastest sword I`ve owned to date.I believe nobody would be disappointed in one....but I could be wrong :-)
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 4:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Albion makes the best type XIX swords. The only thing against them is a characteristic of all XIX's -- a narrow and persnickety COP.

As for the pommel decoration, I like it both ways. It might by a good idea to make that decoration removable, as it may make it less desirable for resale.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 4:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Without. All the way.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 4:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think the design looks nice, so if you're comfortable modifying your sword, you could do it.

Like others, I'm not one for modifying my swords - I like them as-is from the maker. I'd also think about how it might affect resale value.
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Karl Knisley




PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 4:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello
thats why I was thinking,glue. I can allways buff it out later.
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Jonathan Hopkins




PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 7:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think the design is nice, but I would leave the sword as is.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 8:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Like Ken, I prefer it simple

Simple = elegant
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Dec, 2014 8:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Although it looks great, I believe in less is more. Simplicity can withstand the test of time a little better.
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Dec, 2014 9:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm going to buck the trend (and go against my normal inclination toward simplicity) and say do it. Like you said, you can likely buff it out later, and I definitely could see a well-to-do mercenary in Italy wanting to bling up his piece a bit. That said, if you don't do it now, you can always do it later...
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Dec, 2014 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: your opinion: With or Without         Reply with quote

Karl Knisley wrote:
Hello
I just got my new Machiavelli,and it is wonderous:-) But the pommel seems kindof naked. I thought I might glue some, carved, natural ruby flowers and silvered settings into the pommel? Whats your call?And what kind of glue would be best?

Thanks in advance


Well, if you do decide to glue it in maybe try something like superglue that can be removed using a solvent so that the whole thing is reversible.

I would recommend doing some testing of any adhesive and adhesive remover to see how easy or hard it turns out being and to see if it mars, stains or corrodes the original surface should you decide to remove the decoration.

Epoxy would work but it would be harder to remove I think?

How well will super glue hold the decoration ? Should be O.K. and if it ever falls out you can always glue it back in again unless it gets lost.

Simple and clean lines is more a modern aesthetics because medieval people seemed to like excess in decoration and colour to the point that we might perceive it as being in " bad taste ". ( NOTE: Opinion needing confirmation, and this could vary by location and time period. Cost might influence the decision in period to not decorate rather than any reluctance to be gaudy. Wink )

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Dec, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Acetone cuts cyanoacrylate. If it were me to do, I would set it in a silver /stainless or platinum tray/dish and glue or solder that base. A step further with a rope of wire (even to contrast with gold). Very Romeo & Juliet.

Otherwise plain but the sword (to me) seems too mechanically clean as far as the hilt goes and somehow I more like the Gallowglass hilt on this blade. I guess what I really like is the #135 A&A look.

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Ben Coomer




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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 11:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'd say go for it.

The modern taste is for simplicity, but the Machiavelli, to me, takes this a little too far in the pommel. The fingerguards and the fullers and the hilt work have a sort of elegance that the plain disk of the pommel seems off from.

Just make sure you can undo it if it turns out bad.
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 12:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm tossed both ways..with and without. I sort of think a jewelled pommel would need *more* than just that to "balance" out the sword. Maybe rather than jewels, some engraving on pommel and the guard ? Is it a peened pommel ? If not..maybe you could get a different pommel and jazz that up ? That way you could have it both ways ? Do you plan on *using* the sword ? I'm not sure glue would stand the stresses if you do ?
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 12:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I say go for it. IMO it definitely looks better with the rubies, and they complement the grip very well too. I'd see if superglue worked before going to anything more heavy duty.
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 1:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

i like it better with it complements the rest of the sword well without being to flashy but i would use something that can be taken off later without leaving residue if you plan on selling it. if you plan on keeping it go for it
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 3:58 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I would vote without, looks great as is.

Any chance for some additional pictures? The Albion XIX blades are so darn nice but seems like not too many around and would love to see some additional pics.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 4:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bryan Heff wrote:
Any chance for some additional pictures? The Albion XIX blades are so darn nice but seems like not too many around and would love to see some additional pics.


Have a look at my photos. I no longer own the sword. I regret that. It was excellent.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec, 2014 7:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I like it. Modern swords are often far too plain. Our ancestor's would likely look at all of our bare steel and brown/black leather and see missed opportunities. I've found Gorilla Glue to work well for this type of thing.
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