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Adam M.M.





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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec, 2014 10:56 am    Post subject: Historically accurate movies?         Reply with quote

Historical accuracy in movies is notoriously bad, but are there any that actually portray things (relatively) accurately? I'm especially interested in ones set in the medieval period.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec, 2014 11:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Arn the Templar Knight is a relatively accurate movie...
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec, 2014 12:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Do you mean in terms of the events depicted or the quality of the costumes and props?

If the latter then, for me, it's a toss up between Name of the Rose and The Lion in Winter (the original Peter O'Toole/Katherine Hepburn version, not the modern travesty) with the Hour of the Pig bringing up the rear.

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec, 2014 12:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The Duellists
But it's after your period of interest.

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec, 2014 12:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Kindom of heaven was actually pretty accurate.... for crusader armor. knee length hauberks with attached mittens and coifs, single piece nasal helms, and if memory serves the correct templar tabards. They unfortunately had the saracens done up more like 17th-19th century ottomans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzwPzsRdfUQ

With fire and sword, as well as 1612, are two pretty darn accurate polish movies about the 17th century. Great costume work and field battles with limited "movieisms"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD6UkzJs9h0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh_yTV8r-W0
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec, 2014 2:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tom King wrote:
Kindom of heaven was actually pretty accurate.... for crusader armor.


For the period between the 2nd and 3rd Crusades? Uh, no. Get rid of all the surcoats, then we'll talk.

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec, 2014 2:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Blackadder

More or less.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec, 2014 5:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nothing captures the spirit of the era like Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec, 2014 6:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tirante el Blanco was pretty good, and it had a great dubbing job!
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec, 2014 7:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bwahhhaaa ha ha ha haaaaaw!!!

Seriously though, I'll just second Black Adder. Big Grin Cool

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Dec, 2014 2:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Alatriste is pretty good.

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0395119/

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Dec, 2014 2:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The old Romeo and Juliet had some pretty legit stuff. The rest, I can't think of any that doesn't do the 360 degree turn during fights.
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Dec, 2014 5:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

For later time periods, I think its hard to beat "Master and Commander" and the Alfred Hitchcock "Jamaica Inn". The scene in the latter where Charles Laughton correctly loads his pistol with a paper cartridge really makes that movie.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Dec, 2014 6:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

How about "Sharpe" and "Hornblower" TV series? They look pretty decent yo me in historical accuracy department; but I am not a Napoleonic era expert.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 2:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, maybe not Medieval, but the original Seven Samurai was fairly authentic. Happy

Also, if I recall, the David Hemmings "Alfred the Great" was fairly accurate. Does anyone know if it's ever been released on DVD ??
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 8:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I've never seen it, but I've heard that The Warlord, starring Charlton Heston, is an accurate movie - 11th century Normandy.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm rather fond of that movie, but the mail is not accurate. They did not know how to tailor it, so they did some strange things to make it work. I don't know why they didn't just find some Eastern mail, except perhaps Mr. Heston was a very large man, and hard to fit.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Arn the Templar Knight is a relatively accurate movie...


Luka...

I have to ask in what ways this movie, which I have seen, is historically accurate?

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 3:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lin Robinson wrote:
Luka Borscak wrote:
Arn the Templar Knight is a relatively accurate movie...


Luka...

I have to ask in what ways this movie, which I have seen, is historically accurate?


Well, I did say relatively... Happy Weaponry, while not perfect is better than in most other movies about crusades, events in the movie are also historical events although they are of course romanticized and modified... Certainly much better than Kingdom of Heaven...
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec, 2014 7:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Lin Robinson wrote:
Luka Borscak wrote:
Arn the Templar Knight is a relatively accurate movie...


Luka...

I have to ask in what ways this movie, which I have seen, is historically accurate?


Well, I did say relatively... Happy Weaponry, while not perfect is better than in most other movies about crusades, events in the movie are also historical events although they are of course romanticized and modified... Certainly much better than Kingdom of Heaven...


I must agree with you about it being better than Kingdom of Heaven. At least they are wearing braies and chausses in Arn.
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