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Boncz József




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PostPosted: Wed 10 Dec, 2014 8:08 am    Post subject: sword who used ?         Reply with quote

Hey !I would like to ask for your help ! who used a sword when he was 77 cm total length 30.3 inches


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Mark Griffin




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PostPosted: Wed 10 Dec, 2014 9:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Blimey, thats seen better days.

Sure thats a sword and not a fossil...?

Is that a nut or screw I see at the end of the tang?

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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Wed 10 Dec, 2014 9:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It looks like early or middle La Tene period celtic sword. But it's hard to say if it's authentic. Where did you get it?
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Boncz József




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PostPosted: Wed 10 Dec, 2014 12:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mark Griffin wrote:
Blimey, thats seen better days.

Sure thats a sword and not a fossil...?

Is that a nut or screw I see at the end of the tang?



the sword fixed end



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Boncz József




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PostPosted: Wed 10 Dec, 2014 1:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Boncz József wrote:
Mark Griffin wrote:
Blimey, thats seen better days.

Sure thats a sword and not a fossil...?

Is that a nut or screw I see at the end of the tang?



the sword fixed end



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Jeffrey Faulk




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PostPosted: Thu 11 Dec, 2014 8:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Blimey indeed.

Without knowing more about the piece in question, the length (around 30 inches) suggests possibly a somewhat long gladius or spatha. It's mostly the diamond-shaped form and the upset end to the tang that indicate that, as well as the acute point. Beyond that, it could be a fairly wide and long dagger. There really isn't much to go on with this one, unfortunately...

Boncz, can you give us more details about it? Is this something that you have found, or is it in a museum?
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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Thu 11 Dec, 2014 12:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

To support my celtic la tene theory, I found a few similar examples. Wink The important indicators are I think the blade shoulders and specific blade taper with midrib.

http://www.electrummagazine.com/wp-content/up...deln_2.jpg

http://www.hixenbaugh.net/gallery/detail.cfm?...;showpic=a

http://www.artemission.com/ViewItemDetails.as...r=22.18937

http://www.time-lines.co.uk/la-tene-sword-006305-10626-0.html
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Jeffrey Faulk




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PostPosted: Thu 11 Dec, 2014 2:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I am inclined to agree that it may be Celtic; that was up there along with Roman. Given the length that is a little more likely.

Again though I would like to know where this is... private collection? Museum? And place/context of discovery? Answers to these questions would be very helpful.

It is worth noting that there are not many swords with this cross-section and size between the Celtic-Roman period and the Medieval, or afterwards. If this was found in the east though it could perhaps be some sort of kindjal or qama. The main indicator of its age is the extreme corrosion, though; even a 500-year-old blade would not necessarily be in such poor condition unless it was made out of low-grade steel and/or in a highly corrosive environment.
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Boncz József




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PostPosted: Sat 13 Dec, 2014 10:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeffrey Faulk wrote:
I am inclined to agree that it may be Celtic; that was up there along with Roman. Given the length that is a little more likely.

Again though I would like to know where this is... private collection? Museum? And place/context of discovery? Answers to these questions would be very helpful.

It is worth noting that there are not many swords with this cross-section and size between the Celtic-Roman period and the Medieval, or afterwards. If this was found in the east though it could perhaps be some sort of kindjal or qama. The main indicator of its age is the extreme corrosion, though; even a 500-year-old blade would not necessarily be in such poor condition unless it was made out of low-grade steel and/or in a highly corrosive environment.



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Boncz József




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PostPosted: Sat 13 Dec, 2014 10:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Photoshop prepared.perhaps recently viewed


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Boncz József




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PostPosted: Sat 13 Dec, 2014 11:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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