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Mike Janis




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PostPosted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 4:19 am    Post subject: Antique (?) dagger blade - what to do?         Reply with quote

I bought this dagger (?) blade at a flea market in Sofia Bulgaria for $20 US. The only thing the seller knew about it was that “it is old”. It is rusty with pitting but is fairly thick and solid. If it is a true antique, it was a great buy and I’ll hang it on the wall as is. If it is an “instant antique” it was still a good buy. But, in that case I’ll treat it with Naval Jelly followed by an extra fine grit belt sander and re hilt it with wood or bone scales.

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Craig Peters




PostPosted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 4:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The shape is vaguely reminiscent of a kindjal, but I'm not certain. I cannot comment on the age.
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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A light polish to remove rust is needed no matter what the age of it is.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 8:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It appears to be a Qama. Google the term and you'll see lots of antiques.

You can pick up a modern version locally: http://www.atlantacutlery.com/p-1059-qama.aspx

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Eric W. Norenberg





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PostPosted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 10:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Red, flaky rust is usually reckoned to indicate recent fast oxidation (compared to the darker, less flaky patina that develops over decades or centuries. That doesn't mean it isn't an old blade only recently rusted up, but it might point toward "instant antique."

Is there any irregularity to the size and/or direction of the handle pin holes? Any observable puckering on the edges of the holes on one side or the other that might suggest they were punched or pounded through by hand? If the holes are well matched in diameter and alignment, with no lip or distortion around the rim, this could indicate a decent quality drill bit in a drill press was used. Not a for-sure thing but could be a clue.
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Ralph Grinly





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PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov, 2014 1:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

As said before - check the rivet holes. if they don't appear 'punched" through.., check the hole diameters and see if they match up with modern drill bit sizes, either imperial ( fractions of an inch) or metric (millimetres) - if they do, it's a pretty fair guess the blade isn't all that old.
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