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William Ford




Location: UK
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jul, 2014 1:31 pm    Post subject: Help required identifying what it and age if possible.         Reply with quote

My first post and so be gentle with me, ;-)

I have a sword, it has been in my family for many years and owned my father who was a Vicar. I am not sure if it is ceremonial or ever had a use or anything about it and so am seeking as much information as possible. I have attached two images below and any input would be gratefully received.
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Victor R.




Location: Spring, Texas
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jul, 2014 3:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The rounded tip and apparent lack of a sharpened edge lead me to believe it's a training or stage sword. Couldn't really speculate as to age, other than "relatively modern".
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Glen A Cleeton




Location: Nipmuc USA
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jul, 2014 2:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi William

These bowtie guards start to show up in the 18th century for fraternal swords in the UK. Certainly a ceremonial or social dress wear type. Perhaps a mourning sword and that guess based on the grip and pommel. As late as the late 19th century or even newer. A study and research of the man might lead to more information.. Mourning swords were common and often of a more elaborate smallsword, Some very old swords were blackened for that purpose. Scabbards almost always leather, so it is no surprise to see them absent. A Freemason or Scottish Rite sword would likely to have some other decoration/emblem. It is very possible he used it during memorial processions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-5vPk-0rXc

Cheers

GC
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