Info Favorites Register Log in
myArmoury.com Discussion Forums

Forum index Memberlist Usergroups Spotlight Topics Search
Forum Index > Off-topic Talk > The Spear of Charlemagne, Reply to topic
This is a standard topic  
Author Message
Lee O'Hagan




Location: Northamptonshire,England
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Likes: 5 pages

Posts: 509

PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec, 2004 6:23 am    Post subject: The Spear of Charlemagne,         Reply with quote

Some time back i caught the majority of a programe about this on the discovery channel,
A whole host of names throughout history connected to this spear for one reason or another,
The programe discussing this spear, went as far as x-ray and carbon dating,
One central piece dated out to the time of Jesus and they said/discussed that a small central part could be one of the nails used in the crucifiction,
Have any of you people seen any pictures or good sites about this on your net travels,
Any makers out there ever made one as a commision,
Anyone have any different opinions to the programme shown if you guys have seen it,
View user's profile Send private message
Eric Meulemans
Industry Professional



Location: Southern Wisconsin
Joined: 30 Nov 2003
Reading list: 18 books

Posts: 163

PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec, 2004 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: The Spear of Charlemagne,         Reply with quote

Lee O'Hagan wrote:
Some time back i caught the majority of a programe about this on the discovery channel,
A whole host of names throughout history connected to this spear for one reason or another,
The programe discussing this spear, went as far as x-ray and carbon dating,
One central piece dated out to the time of Jesus and they said/discussed that a small central part could be one of the nails used in the crucifiction,
Have any of you people seen any pictures or good sites about this on your net travels,
Any makers out there ever made one as a commision,
Anyone have any different opinions to the programme shown if you guys have seen it,


The episode you refer to was titled "Spear of Jesus", details of which can be found here:
http://times.discovery.com/schedule/episode.j...&gid=0

The spear under scrutiny is variously refered to as the "Spear of Destiny", the "Holy Lance", and the "Spear of Longinus". A substantial mythos has evolved around the spear - too much to cover fully here - and legend holds that whoever is in possession of the spear cannot be killed, defeated in combat, is made able to rule the world, etc. Charlemagne suppossedly carried the spear successfully through many victorious battles before dropping it while fording a river and dying thereafter (or was that Frederick Barbarossa?), while Hitler also died not long after the spear was recovered by the Allies. Coincidence... or Psychic phenomenon...? Wink

As a holy relic, it is purportedly (along with at least a couple of other spears) the blade that the Centurion Longinus used to pierce the side of Christ at the crucifixion. The nail/spike tied into the blade's centre is of course claimed to be one of the nails from the true cross.

If you're interested in an entertaining read on the subject I recommend the book "Spear of Destiny" by Trevor Ravenscroft.

A Photo with description of the spear from the Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna is here:
http://www.khm.at/system2E.html?/staticE/page477.html

Photo only:
http://www.khm.at/data/page477/Die_hl_Lanze_250.jpg

-Eric
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Lee O'Hagan




Location: Northamptonshire,England
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Likes: 5 pages

Posts: 509

PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec, 2004 6:15 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Eric,
Excellent links and info,
The book i will keep an eye out for as well,
Thankyou very much,
cheers,
Lee. Happy
View user's profile Send private message


Display posts from previous:   
Forum Index > Off-topic Talk > The Spear of Charlemagne,
Page 1 of 1 Reply to topic
All times are GMT - 8 Hours

View previous topic :: View next topic
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum






All contents © Copyright 2003-2018 myArmoury.com — All rights reserved
Discussion forums powered by phpBB © The phpBB Group
Switch to the Basic Low-bandwidth Version of the forum