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Ricardo S.





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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 11:27 am    Post subject: Landsknecht painting         Reply with quote

Greetings. Does anyone know this painting, the artist who did it or where can i find a complete version of it? Thank you very much.




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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 12:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

No attribution in the game packaging?
http://italianwars.net/games/all_is_lost_save_honour

EDIT: Found it.
http://paintingandframe.com/prints/gustave_ja...21412.html


Gustave Jean Jacquet, 1846-1909, Departure of the Lansquenets

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 1:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Those…those are some swords. Wow.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, there does seem to be a measure of artistic license involved, here. Could have been much worse, though, considering the time...
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Ricardo S.





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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 1:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart Shearer wrote:
No attribution in the game packaging?
http://italianwars.net/games/all_is_lost_save_honour

EDIT: Found it.
http://paintingandframe.com/prints/gustave_ja...21412.html


Gustave Jean Jacquet, 1846-1909, Departure of the Lansquenets


Wow. Nice. Thank you very much sir. Nice image. I was looking for that for months Eek!

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 1:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mikko Kuusirati wrote:
Well, there does seem to be a measure of artistic license involved, here. Could have been much worse, though, considering the time...


Well, those swords were indeed as big as the image shows. They were used against pikemen formations.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 3:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The guy in red on the right.....His sword reminds me of the Rittersteel zweihander...widely available. At 75"....thar be a bunch of steel. Surprised .......McM
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 8:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'll say, 15 pounds of it! That's heavy even for a bearing sword!
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec, 2013 8:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ricardo S. wrote:
Mikko Kuusirati wrote:
Well, there does seem to be a measure of artistic license involved, here. Could have been much worse, though, considering the time...


Well, those swords were indeed as big as the image shows. They were used against pikemen formations.

There's actually considerable debate about exactly what context and function they were used in (although most of the time pike squares do seem to have been involved), and the weapons depicted here don't look quite like any functional pieces I've seen - they're kind of close, especially for the period, but the exact proportions and many details are still somewhat fanciful.

I do believe the artist modeled the painting with bearing swords and/or contemporary theatrical props rather than authentic 300 years old beidenhänder, just like most other Victorian depictions of historical scenes.

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Ricardo S.





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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec, 2013 3:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mikko Kuusirati wrote:
Ricardo S. wrote:
Mikko Kuusirati wrote:
Well, there does seem to be a measure of artistic license involved, here. Could have been much worse, though, considering the time...


Well, those swords were indeed as big as the image shows. They were used against pikemen formations.

There's actually considerable debate about exactly what context and function they were used in (although most of the time pike squares do seem to have been involved), and the weapons depicted here don't look quite like any functional pieces I've seen - they're kind of close, especially for the period, but the exact proportions and many details are still somewhat fanciful.

I do believe the artist modeled the painting with bearing swords and/or contemporary theatrical props rather than authentic 300 years old beidenhänder, just like most other Victorian depictions of historical scenes.


Very interesting indeed.

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