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Samu Gröndahl




Location: finland
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PostPosted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Zweihanders         Reply with quote

forging a few making everything to them by hand and having problems figuring how to atach the leather to the hilt dont want to glue them so my quess is sewing but no idea how

and yes i suck making them but still gotta try

picks of a proto flamberge (failure in many ways had to do to figure how to do it right) and for ongoing zweihander projeckt (starting a flamberge soon((again))

http://imageshack.us/g/1/10375627/

and ofc other tips when making one appreciated... found 0 info on how to forge a flamberge online so pretty much hawing to go by trial and error

brawn over brains
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John Farthing




Location: ARMA Middle Tennessee
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PostPosted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 11:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This should help. http://www.bladesmithsforum.com/index.php?showtopic=15010
-John Farthing, Deputy Director (ARMA)
Association for Renaissance Martial Arts
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Samu Gröndahl




Location: finland
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PostPosted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 11:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

so i quess glueing is the authentic way not much on sewing on taht but thx now i know i dont need to be shamed of it if i glue it
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Daniel Wallace




Location: Pennsylvania USA
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PostPosted: Thu 31 Oct, 2013 8:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

i just saw your link posted up in another post - I'm glad to see someone also diving into the construction of these style of swords, their geometry alone is complex and sometimes hidden by the semi-sheath.

as for your flamberge, don't look at it as a failure, everything is a learned experience. and to be truly honest with you, i don't have much of an idea of how there were forged either, modern productions are just a wavy flame like blade, but most originals are more like a saw tooth design. maybe many hours and hours of grinding to get that feature, or another aspect of forging it that I'm not aware of.
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Samu Gröndahl




Location: finland
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PostPosted: Thu 31 Oct, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

well i got a good grip on the forging of the wavy version (i prefer it more)

but wud be nice to get some close up picks on the saw tooth blade cause all ive found are from affar (tho havent looked in to them much)

and the specks for the proto were sumthing like

lenght:158cm
blade:97cm
ricasso:14cm
hilt and pommel: 43cm
weight: about 3,2kg so wud be still about usable balanced that thing about middle of ricasso (dunno the point they shud be but its fun to swing around as it is
mat:spring steel (havent been hardened)
nor have spent alot of time in finishing it only used for finding out the hard parts when making 1
and dident put the crossguard rings to that and anyways how u guys put the rings to them just weld whit silver/forge weld?

but well if i keep making dese for 5-10 years i think ill start getting good pices out :P

brawn over brains
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Daniel Wallace




Location: Pennsylvania USA
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Nov, 2013 10:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Samu Gröndahl wrote:

how u guys put the rings to them just weld whit silver/forge weld?



i wouldn't use a sliver solder - it not strong enough - defiantly weld them on, since you already have the quillon block pounced and drifted, doing a forge weld on them may not work out the best as you should 'upset' these welds before setting them.
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Samu Gröndahl




Location: finland
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Nov, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

well need the "authentic" way for doing em cause ill be doing em to the others im making so if go deeper to that forge weld or punch a hole and strech from the same metal as the rest of the cross guard alot of posibilities on making em but trusting on u fellas expertice/experience so i wudent need to try out all of em Happy
brawn over brains
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Samu Gröndahl




Location: finland
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Nov, 2013 4:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/9wg3.jpg/
still alot of room for improvement missing the rings...was getting short on time
and extermely unfinished look... tho personaly like litle rough looking blades
overall quite happy whit this toy of mine

brawn over brains
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Radovan Geist




Location: Slovakia
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Nov, 2013 6:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Samu Gröndahl wrote:

but wud be nice to get some close up picks on the saw tooth blade cause all ive found are from affar (tho havent looked in to them much)


try to check this fantastic collection: http://www.flickr.com/photos/98015679@N04/sets/
I´ve seen them in several albums there - Stiftung Baumann for sure, and some others. But be careful - it´s addictive Happy
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