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Guy Bayes




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PostPosted: Sun 30 Jun, 2013 1:59 pm    Post subject: Pommel recess on Albion Munich - What to do?         Reply with quote

Getting my Munich in a few days, wondering if anyone had any ideas on what to do with the pommel recess?

I was thinking of possibly trying to find someone to set a semi precious gem in it, no idea who to look for for that

Anyone else seen anything cool or have opinions ?
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Jun, 2013 3:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

According to the Review by Bill Grandy here at myArmoury, the pommel recess is .250 inches deep and .875 inches (22.2 mm) diameter, about the size of a US nickel You could get a fair -sized coin or medallion in there. One place to look is Antiquanova I put one of their reproductions in my latest sword - see below.


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JE Sarge
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013 5:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have put either coins or gems into my personal swords with pommel recesses. On eBay, you can get stones in a variety of sizes and color for really cheap. I have also gotten actual historical coins there as well. When you set them, I have found that clear epoxy works best, but have also gotten excellent results fixing metal coins with JB Weld putty. I've not lost a coin or stone yet using this method, even with heavy use.

Be sure to show us what you end up deciding on.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013 6:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looking on the Antiquanova website, I would go with the copper Templar Denarius. That would contrast nicely with the steel pommel. But, that's just me.... Big Grin ..........McM
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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013 8:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Of course they offer it in gold too, but the plated brass is quite reasonable. At 22mm it's the right size.
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Guy Bayes




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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thanks for the great ideas you guys!
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013 11:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ewart Oakeshott wrote an article in the 1993 Park Lane Arms Fair Catalogue called The Sword of the Comte' de Dreux: Non-Christian Symbolism and the European Sword. There are some interesting things in the pommel of this sword, made around 1240. In one recess there is an enamelled disk showing a shield, presumably the Dreux coat of arms. In the other recess there is a mysterious translucent object. Oakeshott says first that it may be stone, rock crystal, or chalcedony. Then he opines that it is a piece of polished oak root from a tree sacred to the Comtes.


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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul, 2013 1:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I really love details like this. I did the following modification to this sword................

..........I've never seen an exact precedent for it, but it does do a lot for the sword visually.

I prefer coins or enameled plaques over stones. There's a large precedent for stones, but to my eye they usually look cheap. I do need to find something to fill the recesses on my Svantes pommel.

"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Guy Bayes




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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jul, 2013 8:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

this is what Jonathan and I came up with, hematite

really like how it came out



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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jul, 2013 9:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Excellent, the hematite really works.
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