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Phil D.




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PostPosted: Thu 27 Dec, 2012 9:17 am    Post subject: Hanwei- New Synthetic Messers         Reply with quote

Hanwei is now listing these new "Xtreme Synthetic Messer" trainers. I am curious if anyone has any experience with these items.If so,would you please share your feedback.

http://www.cashanwei.com/product/xtreme-synth...ade/pr9052

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Marik C.S.




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PostPosted: Thu 27 Dec, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

They had a couple of these at this years WWOC but ended up using steel blades in the tournament. These messers are pretty rigid and won't flex much so thrusts could hurt a bit.
Also - though that might be because it was an early production run and Quality control didn't quite kick in yet - the messers had to be "polished" by hand, meaning that there were spines and sprues from the molding of the blades still on there which could potentially cut someone.
These could be removed easily with a knife but none the less not something I'd want on there.

You might want to look on the manufacturers website, depending on the cost of shipping you might just get them cheaper than from Hanwei
http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/hema-s...54ea6fb7fb

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Dec, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

In my opinion they are much too blade heavy. They are too heavy overall. The blade is rather wide. Maybe you could get a better messer when grinding down the blade. The plastic is soft and can be shaped easily.
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PostPosted: Thu 27 Dec, 2012 10:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks you. I appreciate such quick responses.
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Sa'ar Nudel




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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec, 2012 2:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This Messer is modular: the regular pommel can be changed with a longer one, thus shifting balance backwards and creating a hand-and-a-half messer. The gaurd can be flipped from right to left hand use, and best thing - it can be mounted with the basket hilt to create a sparring cutlass.
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Derek Wassom




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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec, 2012 3:24 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I like mine, but I found putting the messer furniture on the short-sword blade makes for a safer sparring weapon.
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec, 2012 6:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I suppose you should treat it in the same way as a wooden waster. Quite pretty pieces though, I am on the fence on if I want a longsword or single handed sword just as a "play sword". Ie something I can swing around without being too much danger to myself or others. :P
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Marik C.S.




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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec, 2012 9:18 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

As a "play sword" I'd suggest the basket hilt, those things are addictivly fun to fight with and the most common injury - getting hits on the hands - is not an issue there (well almost, but you'd have to be really unlucky to get hit through the basket hilt with enough force to hurt someone)
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William M




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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec, 2012 10:01 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mm yes good advice there! I think that I would probably modify the swords full basket to become a half basket that one finds on 18th cent sabers.... Maybe some gold paint too! Haha I'm going to get carried away!
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