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Björn Hellqvist
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Sep, 2003 3:37 pm    Post subject: Björn the gun owner         Reply with quote

Well, today I won an Internet auction, and became the owner of a Swedish P 1857 percussion cap pistol. I'm planning to try blackpowder shooting, and this is by all reports an affordable weapon which shoots well. In a country with quite a few laws concerning gun ownership, the nice thing is that an antique gun like this doesn't need a permit. I just need to ask the Police for a permit to store gunpowder in my home, which is a breeze. Any other blackpowder shooters here?


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Fredrik Hörnell




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PostPosted: Sat 27 Sep, 2003 4:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

No, not blackpower - but i would love to have one!

It´s true that we have fairly strict gunlaws ower here - i hold on into my licences like my life depended on it. Wink
(Well they are both from pre-time restricted days but anyway..)

I wish you good shooting. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Sep, 2003 4:25 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yup , nothing like that ... *BOOM* , and smell , of blackpowder !

I've got a flintlock Virginia long rifle, in .50 cal. , by Jack Garner, and an all steel Scottish flintlock pistol in .52 cal., by Dixie Gun !

Blackpowder shooting is a blast , literally *g* Mac




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Scott Bubar




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PostPosted: Sat 27 Sep, 2003 9:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Interesting stock on that pistol, Björn.

Don't think I've seen one that fills in behind the triggerguard like that on pistols of that period before.
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Sep, 2003 9:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I own a flintlock longrifle similar to Macs, although mine's a cheaper Pedersoli model.

I've also had a lot of experience with cap and ball revolvers.

Blackpowder is a lot of fun. I don't shoot mine much. Every once in awhile I get the itch though Big Grin
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Sep, 2003 2:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Scott Bubar wrote:
Interesting stock on that pistol, Björn.

Don't think I've seen one that fills in behind the triggerguard like that on pistols of that period before.


Another peculiarity is that there's a slotted brass plate on the back of the grip, intended for a shoulder stock like a Mauser "broomhandle". The pistol isn't the prettiest (I'm more partial to 18th C flintlocks), but it's a beginning.
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Sep, 2003 7:16 am    Post subject: Oh NO!!!         Reply with quote

Another Swedish redneck is born...

Are you going to try and win a banjo on ebay too? Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Sep, 2003 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Oh NO!!!         Reply with quote

Eric McHugh wrote:
Another Swedish redneck is born...

Are you going to try and win a banjo on ebay too? Wink


Right after I've married my cousin! Laughing Out Loud Actually, blackpowder shooting is gaining ground here in Sweden, many using vintage revolvers and such.
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Fredrik Hörnell




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PostPosted: Sun 28 Sep, 2003 1:58 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Björn Hellqvist wrote:


Another peculiarity is that there's a slotted brass plate on the back of the grip, intended for a shoulder stock like a Mauser "broomhandle". The pistol isn't the prettiest (I'm more partial to 18th C flintlocks), but it's a beginning.


I saw a few pistols today of the same type as the one you have Björn, one of wich had the shoulder stock attached.
(At the military fair at SolnaHallen, Solna.)
They had some swords too of course, mostly military sabers.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Oct, 2003 9:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I own two muzzle loaders as well, but for me it was more of a "get two more weeks of the best part of the hunting season" than anyting else. I'm impressed with what a heavy .45 cal saboted slug in a .50 cal rifle moving at 1400+ fps will do. Darn near split a small tree in half when I cleared my gun after a day in the field. Even using black powder substitutes like Pyrodex, cleaning them is a lot different than centerfire arms. I'm partial to dish soap and scalding hot water for black powder, vs. petrolium based cleaners for modern arms.

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Oct, 2003 5:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Michael E. Stora, Ph.D. wrote:
I own two muzzle loaders as well, but for me it was more of a "get two more weeks of the best part of the hunting season" than anyting else. I'm impressed with what a heavy .45 cal saboted slug in a .50 cal rifle moving at 1400+ fps will do. Darn near split a small tree in half when I cleared my gun after a day in the field. Even using black powder substitutes like Pyrodex, cleaning them is a lot different than centerfire arms. I'm partial to dish soap and scalding hot water for black powder, vs. petrolium based cleaners for modern arms.

Mike


Sabots? Pyrodex?

Blasphemy Eek!
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PostPosted: Fri 17 Oct, 2003 1:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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Sabots? Pyrodex?

Blasphemy


Smiling...all hail the holy black? Wink


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PostPosted: Tue 21 Oct, 2003 8:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I been shooting matchlocks for several years now, but just finally got around to buying one a few months ago. Mostly I shoot in English Civil War reenactment, with no ball, but shooting lead from blackpowder is ALOT of fun! Welcome to the crowd, Björn!
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Oct, 2003 4:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, the gun turned out to be in rather poor condition. The seller has agreed to take it back and return my money. Bummer (the gun, not the closure). But I will get a gun, even if they have to put one in my dead, cold, hand... Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Oct, 2003 4:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Aww bummer Bjorn Worried

Black powder is a blast!

Mac this:



Ohh sweet! I need a mop, much drool!

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Oct, 2003 1:54 pm    Post subject: Hurrah for powdersmoke!         Reply with quote

I've been shooting black-powder firearms for just over a decade now.

I hope you love it as much as I do Bjorn!

Pity about the gun. It looks gorgeous.

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