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Leo Todeschini
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep, 2012 3:48 pm    Post subject: German hunting bow in black and white         Reply with quote

Hi All,

Here is another crossbow built along the lines of German hunting bows from around 1500, and using elements from a few different bows. Notably the usual cord binding has been replaced with a steel strap called a nussfarben (I think) and the usual bone nut has been replaced with a steel nut. The bow has a draw weight of 380lb and is set up for a cranequin.

These bows were almost made to a formula and had short, but flowing and almost streamlined stocks, heavy composite or ocassionally steel bows spanned by a cranequin and lashed in place with hemp cords. The stocks were always fruitwood and they had horn cheeks around the nut, an antler or ivory nut held in with a cord and lots of bone plates, often engraved. The triggers were very sculptural and the bows were finished off with coloured pom poms on the bow, lashings and trigger. The customer will add the pom poms himself. The thing they always were, was flashy

The nut socket is bone lined, the stock is in cherry and the inlay is all in bone and horn. There is a magnificent original bow that is completely covered in small black and white squares similar to the smaller areas of inlay here. One day I will get the courage to tackle that one.

I hope you like it and if you have any questions please ask.

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Tod,

this is a very beautiful piece of craftmanship! I wondered, what for the cords on the bow are. Are they a safety device in case one of the arms does break during shooting?

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Absolutely stunning, it makes me seriously consider thinning out the gun cabinet to add something like this. Incredible.
'I saw young Harry, -with his bevor on,
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep, 2012 6:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thomas R. wrote:
Hi Tod,

this is a very beautiful piece of craftmanship! I wondered, what for the cords on the bow are. Are they a safety device in case one of the arms does break during shooting?

Regards,
Thomas


Yes this is also a very good question about the cords ? Do they also act almost like rubber bands and add a little to the draw weight ? If yes wouldn't these stretch eventually ?

Technical questions aside this is gorgeous work in execution and design ...... really really beautiful work. Big Grin Cool

Might be nice to also hear how it shoots, and apart from questions about bolt weight and efficiency of other crossbow Topics it might be interesting learning about potential accuracy and maybe point blank and maximum range.

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep, 2012 7:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The straps were originally added as protection against a catastrophic failure of the prod. If you have ever seen a drawn bow snap you will understand, the limbs spring out away from the break, hit the end of the bowstring and then snap back and hit you in the head. That is painful enough with lightweight wooden limbs, the thought of being struck in the head with a steel prod is terrifying. The sichern keeps the broken prod from giving you that smack.
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And witch the world with noble horsemanship.'
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Damn Man         Reply with quote

I saw the title of the thread and hesitated as I knew what it might hold. Then decided to open the thread and sat back and wished I had spent my youth more fruitfully. While its always fun to see what others are doing and I enjoy talking shop and the pleasure of seeing great pieces of craftsmanship....

Well threads like this always make me a bit unsettled as I only wish I had the skills.

Damn fine piece my friend.

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep, 2012 7:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My heart stopped a little when I saw this. Beautiful piece. Maybe one day...
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep, 2012 8:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice craftsmanship! The inlay is superb. What method will you use to span it?
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep, 2012 12:18 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you all for those fantastic comments, I really appreciate them.

The safety cords are indeed exactly as Jason Daub explains. They are simply there in case of a break. The steel on this bow has been made and heat treated very carefully and predictably so in this instance it will not be required, but it is there for appearance.

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Well threads like this always make me a bit unsettled as I only wish I had the skills
I could say the same of your rapiers

Thanks Craig - those words obviously mean a lot, and given a few bows under your belt and some free time and application and you would knocking this stuff out in your lunch break.

The bow is spanned with a cranequin.

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep, 2012 3:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Beautiful! I can count the hours.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep, 2012 4:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow. Wow. Wow.

I'd been working up to it for a while ... but now we really need to talk!

How about a bow and quiver+messer combo? Big Grin

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Sep, 2012 12:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks all for the very generous comments.

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How about a bow and quiver+messer combo?


You know I would love to Mark............just an email and it could happen.....................

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