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Sean Flynt
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: Photos: Irish & Viking Arms in Dublin         Reply with quote

Here are some snapshots from the National Museum of Ireland in July, 2012. Don't hesitate to ask a question, but be aware that the accompanying captions were quite weak in most cases so I didn't bother to catch those as I was hurrying through. I hope these will be of use.


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

More of the same:


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

More:


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for posting these! I love the gold decorated hilts.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Congrats and thanks, Sean. These are splendid. I take it that the Nat. Mus. now allows photos - it didn't when I was last there a few years ago. Must return.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It never ceases to amaze me when I see the skulls and bones of the unfortunate fellows who fell to these weapons. Notice how the edges of the solid parts of the skull appear to be sanded smooth. Maybe it's just the angle, but it looks to me like it may have taken multiple blows; one on the front-right and another towards the rear. Talk about overkill. Eek! Did the skull have any info detailing the type of weapon used?

Thanks for posting these, Sean. Some magnificent pieces with some chilling reminders of what they are capable of. Just awesome! Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul, 2012 9:28 pm    Post subject: Irish arms         Reply with quote

Thanks very much for posting these pictures Sean, those of us in the antipodes don't get to see this kind of thing often.

Those ring-hilt sword are stunning.

cheers

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012 6:00 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Amazing. The sheathes really stood out for me.... what fine work!
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012 6:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Phil U wrote:
Amazing. The sheathes really stood out for me.... what fine work!


I have a number of other photos of sheaths and scabbards but waited to load until somebody asked! The museum also had a wonderful, large hardbound book on their sheaths and scabbards. They were 2 for the price of 1 but I was too stupid to get several and share the joy back home. It's like the MOL's "Sheaths and Scabbards" in coffee-table size!

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012 7:24 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for posting the pictures Sean. Any more pictures that you want to post of the sheaths and scabbards would be most appreciated. This book you are talking about, is it the one that they sell from Esther Cameron or is it something else?
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012 8:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Russ Ellis wrote:
Thanks for posting the pictures Sean. Any more pictures that you want to post of the sheaths and scabbards would be most appreciated. This book you are talking about, is it the one that they sell from Esther Cameron or is it something else?


It's the Cameron book. I've just seen that there's a general weapons book as well but I didn't see it on the shelf at the museum.

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

More leather. Those bogs are quite handy!


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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012 10:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I did a double-take when I saw the design on this one. Looked a bit familiar. I'm guessing that the medieval craftsman didn't use a nail set for the dots as I did, but it must have been something pretty close. Big Grin


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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012 12:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean Flynt wrote:


It's the Cameron book.


The companion volume to her book on Anglo Saxon sheaths and scabbards. Both are essential reading for students of the subject.

It's quicker for me to fly to Dublin than it is to drive to London...cheaper too in these days extortionate petrol prices.

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Matthew Bunker wrote:
Sean Flynt wrote:


It's the Cameron book.


It's quicker for me to fly to Dublin than it is to drive to London...cheaper too in these days extortionate petrol prices.


I'm jealous of the incredible airfare deals you can get there! All of Europe is open to you! But, yes, an American driving in Ireland/UK will wonder if he's burning petrol or unicorn tears. I love public transportation, but I still can't figure out why the London-Leeds return ticket was so expensive. Seemed like even longer routes were cheaper.

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul, 2012 11:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks very much for those pics. I'm very surprised to see that both the pommel and guard shown in the viking ( ??) sword..ireland 10.gif ...seem to be partially hollow , Anyone know if this was common ?

That skull is also very impressive..in a very grisly way. I wonder what make such a shearing wound..a sword or broad axe ? If I had to guess..I'd vote for an axe ?
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul, 2012 11:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ralph, yes, many if not most Viking age hilt components are hollow, especially those that appear massive. As to the skull, it appears to me that the damage is the result of at least two blows. Based on my experience cutting deer heads with swords, I would say that such wounds could certainly be caused by a sword. Deer skulls are much, much thicker than human skulls, but a good sharp type X can section one beautifully!
Sean, what can you tell me about the construction of the sheath with decoration similar to yours? Does the seam run along the back or edge? The overall shape of the sheath reminds me of the bronze-reinforced Gotland/Baltic sheaths, but I can not make out a seam along the edge. Thank you for posting these wonderful pics.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jul, 2012 1:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean Flynt wrote:

It's the Cameron book. I've just seen that there's a general weapons book as well but I didn't see it on the shelf at the museum.


Okay great, I've got that one and the general weapons one. Vince pointed them out to me some years back. Happy Always on the lookout for new source material though and keep those pictures coming! Happy

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hey, Scott--It's your lucky day! The book referenced above has the details of that sheath.


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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul, 2012 12:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you Sean. What a wealth of info, including even the thickness of the leather! I usually do have a lucky day when I ask you a question, you always come through.
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