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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 2:39 am    Post subject: Windlass sword of St. Maurice         Reply with quote

Besides that new Windlass Migration period sword, this one also appeared. So what do you guys think of this one? Keeping in mind its price of course. The hilt looks quite good to me, of course it's not gold plated iron like the original, but hey, the price, right? Blade has a diamond section at the tip, but other than that also not that bad...
http://www.museumreplicas.com/p-2032-sword-of-st-maurice.aspx
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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 4:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Luka!
The blade looks similar to that of the windlass war sword...
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=10964

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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 4:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Windlass seems o be catering more and more for the costume and rennies. I guess it depends on what one may see value in. Performance is certainly not where this sword might shine. Even presented out of the scabbard hardly makes it appealing (to me). That leaves it a costume piece and in the same category as a fair number of the Windlass combos that include a scabbard. Bleh Wink

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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 5:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hey I missed that one! Doesn't look too bad! It even has a decent scabbard. But is it just me, or is the text engraved on the crossguard upside down?
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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I noticed the upside down as well. Laughing Out Loud
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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 5:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The engraving on ceremonial swords was often 'upside down', meant to be read with the blade held up. But the A&A version is opposite to this. I can't remember which way it goes on the original - can someone check?

I could see the main problem with this one being handling. The A&A version is 12oz lighter and is still a challenge to handle with its long blade and far-out PoB (not wrong for a cavalry sword, just challenging). So this one is likely quite difficult. Overall it can't compare with the A&A sword, although the fuller width on this one is actually more accurate and bronze looks more like gold. It departs from the original in a number of areas, but at least its based on a real historical sword and in the right ballpark. Looks like a good 'starter sword' for people interested in this era, and more interested in display than handling.
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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 6:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

In this topic there are some info! Happy
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...p;start=20

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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 6:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Antonio.

It seems Windlass got it right.Here is a pic posted by Manouchehr M. from the above mentioned thread...

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Luka Borscak




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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 7:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I just read in that old thread that fittings of the original are gilded silver, not iron. Interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 8:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Right, so its the A&A inscription that's upside down! The A&A sword tip is also even more diamond shaped than the Windlass. I'm not saying the Windlass is better - you can't beat the finish, construction, weight distribution, and attention to detailing on A&A products. But I think one needs to be objective about these things.
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PostPosted: Fri 18 May, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Phil D. wrote:
It seems Windlass got it right.

Well, shows what I know Laughing Out Loud
Glad they got it right. The sword doesn't look too bad in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sun 20 May, 2012 9:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J.D. Crawford wrote:
Right, so its the A&A inscription that's upside down! The A&A sword tip is also even more diamond shaped than the Windlass. I'm not saying the Windlass is better - you can't beat the finish, construction, weight distribution, and attention to detailing on A&A products. But I think one needs to be objective about these things.


That certainly lowers my opinion of the A&A model. I agree that the A&A is certainly a better sword than the Windlass but it's somewhat upsetting that such a large detail was missed at their price point, especially from a company that focuses on historically accuracy.
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PostPosted: Sun 20 May, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Actually, the inscription (on cross and pommel) are inverted from one side to the other. So it reads correctly in hand, tip-up or sheathed. Hey, if you're cutlering a sword for a saint, you better be thinking about stuff like this!

Look at the image posted by C.L. Miller about three-quarters of the way down the older thread:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...mp;start=0

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PostPosted: Mon 21 May, 2012 4:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

so its read one way on one side of the sword and the upside down on the other? hehehe. devil in the details for sure
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PostPosted: Mon 21 May, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

perfect for having yourself crowned Holy Roman Emperor by a inexpensive copy of the Pope.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 May, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's another option, much nicer (and much more expensive) from Ares Academy in Italy: http://www.aresacademy.it/1-San%20Maurizio.html
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PostPosted: Mon 21 May, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J.D. Crawford wrote:
Here's another option, much nicer (and much more expensive) from Ares Academy in Italy: http://www.aresacademy.it/1-San%20Maurizio.html

Not to take this thread off track, but I had never even heard of this company... On first impressions based purely on the website they look really nice. Like Albion or A&A nice... Anyone have experience with them or seen one in person?

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PostPosted: Mon 21 May, 2012 12:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Robin Smith wrote:
J.D. Crawford wrote:
Here's another option, much nicer (and much more expensive) from Ares Academy in Italy: http://www.aresacademy.it/1-San%20Maurizio.html

Not to take this thread off track, but I had never even heard of this company... On first impressions based purely on the website they look really nice. Like Albion or A&A nice... Anyone have experience with them or seen one in person?


They are a relatively new company. They use CNC like Albion. There's a bit of info here: www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=21549
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PostPosted: Mon 21 May, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hey, they even put the little designs on the bottom of the guard (perdendicular to the blade) like the original. I believe A&A doesn't even have that! Someone actually did a little bit of research putting this thing together! How cute. Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 21 May, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J.D. Crawford wrote:
Robin Smith wrote:
J.D. Crawford wrote:
Here's another option, much nicer (and much more expensive) from Ares Academy in Italy: http://www.aresacademy.it/1-San%20Maurizio.html

Not to take this thread off track, but I had never even heard of this company... On first impressions based purely on the website they look really nice. Like Albion or A&A nice... Anyone have experience with them or seen one in person?


They are a relatively new company. They use CNC like Albion. There's a bit of info here: www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=21549


Yes, they look pretty nice. I do wonder if they are blunt since they are made in Italy.
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