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Bill Grandy
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Back on TV for armored combat         Reply with quote

A little while ago the local TV show Time Travel Virginia invited David Rowe and myself to do an episode to demonstrate Historical Swordsmanship (that episode was here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8q0vxMMmGw&am...deo_title)

Recently we were invited back on to demonstrate combat in armor. David Rowe unfortunately couldn't make it, so Tim Hall (another of VAF's Historical Swordsmansip instructors) gracioiusly stepped in to be my partner. The show will air later this month, but they put the lower quality version up on YouTube this morning. It's split into two links.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9JKmXzauD0
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMJ-HU_Pq0Q

You'll note some pieces from Arms and Armor and Albion in there, too, as I wanted to make sure I showed some examples of high quality replica weapons.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 10:06 am    Post subject: news         Reply with quote

Wow! I really enjoyed that, Bill Big Grin

Congrats! Thanks for sharing
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 1:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very cool. Enjoyed watching it. Happy

Thanks for posting it!

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 4:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Congratulations Bill: Very informative and very professional delivery. Too bad you don't have a weekly program or your own " Reality Show ". Big Grin Cool
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bravo! That was not only well done, but it answered a burning question of mine about Talhoffer's "murder stroke" where the blade is grasped with two hands and the sword is swung like a warhammer.

Thanks for sharing that video.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 May, 2012 5:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks guys!

Gregg Sobocinski wrote:
Bravo! That was not only well done, but it answered a burning question of mine about Talhoffer's "murder stroke" where the blade is grasped with two hands and the sword is swung like a warhammer.


Yeah, we actually showed how that technique is used, the setup for it, and also a counter, but they didn't use the footage. Unfortunately, they barely used any of the footage of us fighting, and focused more on the interview. I would have done it the other way around, but hey, I'm not the director. Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 02 May, 2012 7:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bill Grandy wrote:
Thanks guys!

Gregg Sobocinski wrote:
Bravo! That was not only well done, but it answered a burning question of mine about Talhoffer's "murder stroke" where the blade is grasped with two hands and the sword is swung like a warhammer.


Yeah, we actually showed how that technique is used, the setup for it, and also a counter, but they didn't use the footage. Unfortunately, they barely used any of the footage of us fighting, and focused more on the interview. I would have done it the other way around, but hey, I'm not the director. Happy


Is this the final cut or an early rough cut ? Noticed that they showed the spear fighting before you discuss it a few minutes later: Would have been better to show this while you where talking about it rather than show talking heads. Wink

Showing it just after not as good but much better than before the subject is introduced.

Showing the studio view is better prioritized when you are pointing to or handling some of the weapons, and they did do this correctly, but the best time to insert video of the fighting is when you are just talking.

Still, it's a very good T.V. educational interview, even if I criticizes the editing choices. ( Worked in Media and edited hundreds of Industrial/Corporate T.V. programs for 25 years, so I know a little bit about it. Wink Big Grin Cool ).

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PostPosted: Wed 02 May, 2012 8:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's the most engaging and articulate general-audience piece I've seen on the subject. Gold stars all around! You should send that to Mike Loades, etc. as a demo tape.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 May, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean Flynt wrote:
That's the most engaging and articulate general-audience piece I've seen on the subject. Gold stars all around! You should send that to Mike Loades, etc. as a demo tape.


Agreed, if you found the opportunity to make videos with Mike Loades, or of the same type as Mike Loades, it would be wonderful. I would certainly buy a Historical arms and martial arts DVD series narrated, produced or advised by Bill Grandy. Big Grin Cool

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PostPosted: Wed 02 May, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean Thibodeau wrote:
Is this the final cut or an early rough cut ?


As far as I know this is the final cut.

Yeah, I had the same thoughts about the editing, but that's okay. I'm not qualified to tell them how to do their jobs anymore than they are to tell me how to do mine, so I'm content with it. Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 03 May, 2012 1:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

could you at least ask them to maybe give you the video footage that wasnt entered into the final cut? its still useful info
personally id love to see the spear work

with regard to facial protection id maybe have noted were it possible (im mindful you cant say EVERYTHING to not give too much detail) that the design of visors and facial protection became more sophisticated over time or something like that


i was also half expecting you would begin to quickly mention the garniture when you started talking about how at its pinnacle, the harness became very sophisticated, and/ or when talking about specialised pieces of armour for sport for example , aka reenforcing plates, special jousting helms etc.

of all the things you talked about what interested me very much was that you noted that the thrust to the armpit with a halfsworded longsword would be unlikely to burst the links and drive the sword into the guy aka killing him (unless you got lucky) but was instead a mere way of putting the guy on the back foot and dealing 'death by 1000 cuts', sorta thing.

again very good to see more of this sort of material circulating in the wider media,

the more stuff thats on tv means that hopefully 'bar-room chatter' will also hopefully change, people maybe will say 'i saw on tv they had a real life sword master saying armours really easy to move in etc..."

well, one can hope anyway. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu 03 May, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

William P wrote:
could you at least ask them to maybe give you the video footage that wasnt entered into the final cut?


I'll ask, but I doubt they'd give it to me. Most professional shows don't like to give up their unaired footage unless if they have complete control over it.

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with regard to facial protection id maybe have noted were it possible (im mindful you cant say EVERYTHING to not give too much detail) that the design of visors and facial protection became more sophisticated over time or something like that


Well, there're plenty of things I could have said in hindsight. *shrug* There was no rehearsal, and I didn't know what he was going to ask ahead of time, so I'm content with the information I got out. Happy

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of all the things you talked about what interested me very much was that you noted that the thrust to the armpit with a halfsworded longsword would be unlikely to burst the links and drive the sword into the guy aka killing him (unless you got lucky) but was instead a mere way of putting the guy on the back foot and dealing 'death by 1000 cuts', sorta thing.


Yeah, we have accounts of knights subduing knights on the battlefield rather than killing them, and then giving them back to their lords for a ransom. When I was a kid, that always seemed weird, because it seemed like it'd be harder to only subdue the knight without killing him, but nowadays I often wonder if this might be part of the reason. If you get a few thrusts into the gaps of the well protected areas where the opponent is not mortally wounded, but too injured to fight (or passed out from blood loss), it seems like taking him prisoner is suddenly an easy option. But that's speculation.

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