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Drew Griffiths




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PostPosted: Sat 21 Apr, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: GDFB Great Bascinet         Reply with quote

Hello,

I just picked up one of GDFB's Great Bascinet with barred occularium and am curious if this helmet is based on any historical pieces. It has a very unique looking visor in my opinion has anyone seen anything else like it? Any input or photos are much appreciated.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr, 2012 5:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello and welcome to myArmoury.com. Happy Are there any pictures you can share of which helm you're referring to?
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Phil D.




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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr, 2012 6:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Is it this one...

http://therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c1299.html

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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr, 2012 7:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A fellow on the Armour Archive by name of Andy, refurbished one of those to make it have more period lines.

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewto...p;t=148374
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Drew Griffiths




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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr, 2012 8:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is the one Phil, thank you for attaching a link. I've never joined any forums before let alone post so everything is new to me and Im still figuring out how to attach pics and links. Thanks again for the replies[/img]
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William P




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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr, 2012 10:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

unless im mistaken didnt great bacsinets usually have a similar setup to the hundskull bascinet except for two key differences.. one, often instead of a maile aventail/mantle, it would i think have a plate collar. and 2 it had a much more rounded visor but the visor was definately much more bulged and as i said before like a hundskull.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/great%20ba...net_01.jpg like this
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Jojo Zerach





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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

William P wrote:
unless im mistaken didnt great bacsinets usually have a similar setup to the hundskull bascinet except for two key differences.. one, often instead of a maile aventail/mantle, it would i think have a plate collar. and 2 it had a much more rounded visor but the visor was definately much more bulged and as i said before like a hundskull.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/great%20ba...net_01.jpg like this


Yes, the cumbersome looking style with solid neck coverage is a great bascinet.
I think GDFB just decided to call their bascinet a "great bascinet" for marketing purposes.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr, 2012 12:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

it looks more like a 'visored great helm' if you asked me
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Peteris R.




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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr, 2012 5:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Visored great helms? I never knew they existed. Do you have any pics?
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr, 2012 5:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Drew ,
Here you go...this pic has one very similar...

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr, 2012 5:15 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Peteris,

Here is one for you.I believe that this is a visored great helm...

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William P




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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr, 2012 5:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

i thought visored great helms were fictional/ a speculated but not substantiated helmet type

apparently they do exist
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Peteris R.




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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr, 2012 5:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Phil D. wrote:
Peteris,

Here is one for you.I believe that this is a visored great helm...


Thanks! I guess William's post above applies to me as well.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

For more info on great helms, included the visored variety, see Spotlight: The Great Helm.

For historical great bascinets, see Great bascinets and related helms.

The GDFB helm doesn't really resemble historical helms closely enough for me.

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

David Clark wrote:
A fellow on the Armour Archive by name of Andy, refurbished one of those to make it have more period lines.

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewto...p;t=148374


I think he was actually working with this GDFB bascinet.
http://therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c1119.html
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