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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: daggers with reinforced points         Reply with quote

Hi All,

Over the last few years I have become more interested in reinforced points and so many daggers of the medieval period have these, but because they can be tricky to make they are not the regular pieces that replica makers undertake. I have a project later this year that has some rather tricky blade sections and transitions and so I have decided to get some practice in before this and so have made four assorted pieces, partly for my personal interest and partly for the practice.

Fundamentally reinforced points are all about making a point that allows the dagger to stab into tough materials like plate armour and maille without getting overly damaged.

The first is a rather utilitarian dagger of an English form and the blade and discs are based loosely on one in the MOL. This is an unfussy, tough dagger with a very heavy spine and although single edged it is 12mm /1/2" thick at the hilt.

The second is a rather more delicate looking German styled dagger with a trIangular blade that has been hollowed until about 60mm from the tip. The dagger is light, but with a blade that is 14mm across the flats it is a very stiff blade.

The thrid is a square tipped bollock dagger based on one In the Rothenberg collection, with what must be one of the most unbreakable blades ever.

The last blade is a double sided hollow ground with a reinforced tip and fitted into a horn and bone Burgundian style grip.

If anyone has any pictures of original reinforced tips, please post them up as they are really very interesting.

Thanks for looking

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb, 2012 2:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow! That is some tricky work. Beautiful job.

Why do I get the feeling that that style was very very effective? Ouch...

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Wow! I never thought I would like a bollock dagger, but that black one is gorgeous! Is it spoken for yet, and if not, what's the price on it? I may just have to call dibs.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb, 2012 3:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Impressive work, Todd. I attempted a blade with a re-inforced point once and found it to be quite a challenge with flat bevels, I don't think I would care to try one with a hollow grind. Nicely done on all of them.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

And if Adam doesn't decide to call dibs on the bollock, I will!
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Well, provided that someone didn't type faster than me, I'm taking that bollock dagger. My wife is going to straight up kill me! It's worth it though.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

So Tod,

Are these for sale, and if so; what are the prices?

Also, when would you date the wodden gripped rondel? I would guess the middle of the 14th. c.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks everybody, that was a quick response and thanks for the compliments.

The steel rondel and the wood handled rondel are available, the black and white was a commission and the black handled bollock appears to have been sold. The all steel one is 330 dated about 1490-1520 and the wood handled is 340, dated around the early to mid 1400's.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

These are very nice. I really like and respect all the craftsmanship in the second, third and fourth.. but I love the English dagger with the wood handle. Very pleasing tones and lines.
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Once again a very lovely sample.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Feb, 2012 10:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

So, Adam, if you get the dagger and your wife kills you do you think she would be willing to sell it to me? ; >}
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Feb, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Leo Todeschini wrote:
Thanks everybody, that was a quick response and thanks for the compliments.

The steel rondel and the wood handled rondel are available, the black and white was a commission and the black handled bollock appears to have been sold. The all steel one is 330 dated about 1490-1520 and the wood handled is 340, dated around the early to mid 1400's.

Tod


Adding my congratulations in a really impressive bunch of daggers each with a different example of a reinforced point but each done in a different way.

I know that all of these are based on historically correct designs, and that you didn't do this as a modern exercise in design variables, and you might not want to take credit for the designs, but the execution is flawless.

Great work from you as usual ..... got to remember some of these after I recover from the tax season ransacking of my bank account. Wink Big Grin Cool

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