Info Favorites Register Log in
myArmoury.com Discussion Forums

Forum index Memberlist Usergroups Spotlight Topics Search
Forum Index > Historical Arms Talk > Scabbard for BinnsDIY Project Reply to topic
This is a standard topic Go to page 1, 2  Next 
Author Message
Ville Vinje




Location: Uppsala
Joined: 20 Apr 2006

Posts: 142

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2012 2:46 am    Post subject: Scabbard for Binns         Reply with quote

I decided to finally make a scabbard for my old trusted Binns blade. This is my first try at a wooden core scabbard and I think it turned out ok.

The wooden core is made of elm tree. I used vegetably tanned cow leather and made a scabbard slider from linden. I decided to give the scabbard slider and leather covering some color (wish turned out a bit more red in the pic than it is in reality). The scabbard chape is bought from Mercia Sveiter and is based on a find from Novgorod.

Let me know what you think =)

/Ville



Scabbard Red Full copy by vendel viking, on Flickr


Scabbard slider Close whole side prof copy by vendel viking, on Flickr


Scabbard slider Close Side copy by vendel viking, on Flickr


Scabbard XX copy by vendel viking, on Flickr


Scappard chape copy by vendel viking, on Flickr


Last edited by Ville Vinje on Thu 09 Feb, 2012 3:57 pm; edited 1 time in total
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Petr Florianek
Industry Professional




Joined: 01 Oct 2008

Posts: 136

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2012 2:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think its very nice! good work here
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Matthew Bunker




Location: Somerset UK
Joined: 02 Apr 2009

Posts: 483

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2012 3:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice work indeed. Very crisp definition on the foundation moulding.
Did you glue the leather down or just work it really firmly down over the cordwork when it was wet?

"If a Greek can do it, two Englishman certainly can !"
View user's profile Send private message
Julien M




Location: London
Joined: 14 Sep 2005

Spotlight topics: 1
Posts: 1,061

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very clean job Ville!

Did you make or buy the scabbard slider? I'm confused by what you said above, I think you were refering to the shape purchased on Mercia Sveiter.

You live in Uppsala? Why bother with a P Binn wen you have P Johnsson living next door to harass for a custom sword? Happy Happy

All jokes aside, very good work on your first scabbard.
View user's profile Send private message
Brian K.
Industry Professional



Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Joined: 01 Jan 2008

Posts: 721

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice work indeed. You have a talent for scabbard making.
Brian Kunz
www.dbkcustomswords.com
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Paul Mortimer




Location: England, Essex
Joined: 28 Aug 2003
Reading list: 1 book

Posts: 285

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2012 8:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lovely job. Well done. Mr Binns will be proud!


Paul
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Bruce Tordoff
Industry Professional




Joined: 13 Aug 2007

Posts: 120

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2012 1:03 pm    Post subject: new scabbard         Reply with quote

Hi Ville,

Your 1st wood core scabbard, eh! Very well done, Looks as good as any you can buy. Except yours is individual, Like matt said, the cording looks real sexy, I especially like the way you've attached the slider.
But on the whole, a very impressive bit of leatherwork.

I'm not knocking Paul's sword making, as this is a nice sword of this style, but in my opinion, I think you've Outshone the sword hilt, ie, people will be too busy checking out your scabbard to notice what sword is in it.
Would look nice with one of those copper and silver wire inlaid hilts. Hey there's an idea for another project for you!!!!!

all the best,
Bruce
View user's profile Send private message
Ville Vinje




Location: Uppsala
Joined: 20 Apr 2006

Posts: 142

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: new scabbard         Reply with quote

Wow! Thank you guys! It really warms getting such great critique from people with so much knowledge and experience.

Bruce Tordoff wrote:
Hi Ville,

Your 1st wood core scabbard, eh! Very well done, Looks as good as any you can buy. Except yours is individual, Like matt said, the cording looks real sexy, I especially like the way you've attached the slider.
But on the whole, a very impressive bit of leatherwork.

I'm not knocking Paul's sword making, as this is a nice sword of this style, but in my opinion, I think you've Outshone the sword hilt, ie, people will be too busy checking out your scabbard to notice what sword is in it.
Would look nice with one of those copper and silver wire inlaid hilts. Hey there's an idea for another project for you!!!!!

all the best,
Bruce


Thanks Bruce! actually I already have plans for a wire inlaid hilt. I will probably not use silver (does not work well with the rest of my bling) but instead a twisted copper and bronze wire.

Julien M wrote:

Did you make or buy the scabbard slider? I'm confused by what you said above, I think you were refering to the shape purchased on Mercia Sveiter.

You live in Uppsala? Why bother with a P Binn wen you have P Johnsson living next door to harass for a custom sword? Happy Happy

All jokes aside, very good work on your first scabbard.


I made the scabbard slider and purchased the shape. Actually I first decided to do the slider. When it was done I realized that I had to make a scabbard for it.

PJ is a god. We mere mortals are not allowed in the dwellings of the maker ( Ulva Mill that is).

Matthew Bunker wrote:
Very nice work indeed. Very crisp definition on the foundation moulding.
Did you glue the leather down or just work it really firmly down over the cordwork when it was wet?


I used no glue on the scabbard except to glue the two core halves together. The leather is quite thin so I had to work it for some time. For the X-details I had to make negatives to press the leather into the right shape.


Brian K. wrote:
Very nice work indeed. You have a talent for scabbard making.


Coming from you this is a great compliment! Thanks =)
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
David Huggins




Location: UK
Joined: 25 Jul 2007

Posts: 490

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Scabard         Reply with quote

Hi Ville

Very neat work and nicely executed. I especially like your slider and neat touch with the Broa style terminals.

best
Dave

and he who stands and sheds blood with us, shall be as a brother.
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Matthew Bunker




Location: Somerset UK
Joined: 02 Apr 2009

Posts: 483

PostPosted: Fri 10 Feb, 2012 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: new scabbard         Reply with quote

Ville Vinje wrote:

I used no glue on the scabbard except to glue the two core halves together.


Not even to glue the fur/sheepskin liner in place?
You did line it, didn't you? Wink

"If a Greek can do it, two Englishman certainly can !"
View user's profile Send private message
Ville Vinje




Location: Uppsala
Joined: 20 Apr 2006

Posts: 142

PostPosted: Fri 10 Feb, 2012 4:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm not sure what you mean. I did use glue to glue on the leather stripes I used as foundation for the risers =).

Thanks David!
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Jim Adelsen
Industry Professional



Location: WI
Joined: 28 Dec 2005

Posts: 137

PostPosted: Fri 10 Feb, 2012 4:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is a great looking scabbard. I have a few swords that would like great in that. Good job.
www.viking-shield.com
www.thevikingmuseum.com
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Matthew Bunker




Location: Somerset UK
Joined: 02 Apr 2009

Posts: 483

PostPosted: Fri 10 Feb, 2012 5:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ville Vinje wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean. !


I mean did you use glue on whatever material you used inside the wooden core?
Early (pre 11th century) medieval scabbards were pretty much always lined with something; sheepskin, animal fur, textile etc...

"If a Greek can do it, two Englishman certainly can !"
View user's profile Send private message
Julien M




Location: London
Joined: 14 Sep 2005

Spotlight topics: 1
Posts: 1,061

PostPosted: Fri 10 Feb, 2012 5:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Matthew Bunker wrote:
Ville Vinje wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean. !


I mean did you use glue on whatever material you used inside the wooden core?
Early (pre 11th century) medieval scabbards were pretty much always lined with something; sheepskin, animal fur, textile etc...


Seems you are determined to ruin the party Matthew, nothing worse than finding out you've missed a step once it's all done Happy. However you are right, in most cases "viking" scabbards were lined with animal fur and oil on top. Having made only later period ones I've never had the opportunity to try it but Gregory Delaunay has a very explicit video of the process here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogtVEHIhuKQ&am...CNWR6KbYzP



 Attachment: 57.28 KB
www.youtube.com - 2012-02-10 - 13h-39m-25s.jpg

View user's profile Send private message
Matthew Bunker




Location: Somerset UK
Joined: 02 Apr 2009

Posts: 483

PostPosted: Fri 10 Feb, 2012 8:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Julien M wrote:


Seems you are determined to ruin the party Matthew,


I asked a question Julien, having already said that I thought it was very nice work. Ville didn't understand what I was referring to, so I clarified.

Is that 'ruining' anyone's party? If so then it was probably a rubbish party with neither jelly nor ice-cream. Wink

"If a Greek can do it, two Englishman certainly can !"
View user's profile Send private message
Julien M




Location: London
Joined: 14 Sep 2005

Spotlight topics: 1
Posts: 1,061

PostPosted: Fri 10 Feb, 2012 10:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

No worries Matthew, I was not questioning your post in any way, and the above was not meant to be taken literally, as the smiley closing the sentence would indicate. Poor choice of words maybe, so please pardon my french. I also stressed that your were quiet right to note the omission of lining inside the scabbard core...but in any case Ville won't be able to do much about it at this stage, unless he starts from scratch. That's all I meant.
View user's profile Send private message
Matthew Bunker




Location: Somerset UK
Joined: 02 Apr 2009

Posts: 483

PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb, 2012 2:08 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ahh, the internet....causing misunderstanding since 1982.
Big Grin

"If a Greek can do it, two Englishman certainly can !"
View user's profile Send private message
Lucas Fisher




Location: Australia
Joined: 07 Nov 2011

Posts: 7

PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb, 2012 3:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Julien M wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogtVEHIhuKQ&am...CNWR6KbYzP


That video was really amazing - thanks a heap for posting that. It's just about got me inspired to get cracking on my own long-overdue scabbard!
View user's profile Send private message
Peter Johnsson
Industry Professional



Location: Storvreta, Sweden
Joined: 27 Aug 2003
Reading list: 1 book

Spotlight topics: 3
Posts: 1,757

PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb, 2012 4:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ville, donŽt be silly: you know you are always welcome to the smithy. I thought I had made that clear.
Write a line and weŽll see if there is a day that works for the both of us.

-We shall have to talk scabbards you and I.
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Scott Woodruff





Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Likes: 8 pages

Posts: 601

PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice work indeed, Ville. I am curious about how the braided bands are fastened. A description of your technique and/or a pic of the back side would be greatly appreciated.
View user's profile Send private message


Display posts from previous:   
Forum Index > Historical Arms Talk > Scabbard for BinnsDIY Project
Page 1 of 2 Reply to topic
Go to page 1, 2  Next All times are GMT - 8 Hours

View previous topic :: View next topic
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum






All contents © Copyright 2003-2018 myArmoury.com — All rights reserved
Discussion forums powered by phpBB © The phpBB Group
Switch to the Basic Low-bandwidth Version of the forum