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John Apsega




PostPosted: Sun 10 Jul, 2011 10:41 pm    Post subject: Need help with a round sheild         Reply with quote

I am looking to make a Round shield suitable for a soldier in the mid 13th century. I am going to get this boss to put on the shield http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AB01...ield+Boss. I have no idea how to do this other than to use plywood, this especially goes for painting (although I have an idea), facing and putting a rim on the shield. The only thing that I know that I need is a strap to put it on my back because the kit it goes with will be carried around fairs and hopefully be used for SCA events when I join. However that will not be for a while so I am solely interested in historical accuracy for now.

Just in case this is necessary this is the pic that gave me the idea it would be good for a kit in this time period.
http://s1041.photobucket.com/albums/b415/japs...kleaf9.gif

I am on a pretty tight budget I would like to not go over 60$ max.

Thank you
John

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jul, 2011 10:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Something ate your URLs. Looks like a bad copy/paste perhaps. Could you edit your post please?
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jul, 2011 5:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I edited the URL's hope its better now.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jul, 2011 6:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You could try this tutorial http://www.yeoldegaffers.com/project_shield.asp

It deals mainly with heater shields, but I bet you will find the info on the straps useful.

Also, Ron is very friendly with emails if you have a specific question.

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jul, 2011 6:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

For mid 13th, you would probably want a heater instead. Round shields went out of fashion quite rapidly after 1066.
These are a bit more work, but you do not need a boss.

For display, they don't need edging either; Historical heaters where a 8-12mm plank construction covered with parchment (painted textile will do) and not edged. For combat, you want a rawhide edge, however.

"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
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John Apsega




PostPosted: Mon 11 Jul, 2011 7:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I though that shields like this went out of style as well until I saw the Mac bible. How do you explain the images which were drawn around this time period? There are several pages like that one with round shields.

I don't mean to sound rude please understand.

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jul, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It may well be the author's intent to show one side as old fashioned. Notice that the Alamekites (who are wearing the round shields) do not have any great helmets but only spangen nasals (which were still used, but were definitely showing their age in 1250).
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jul, 2011 10:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

oh ok hmm I understand well now that makes me have some interesting questions. I am going to continue this in another thread for my entire kit.

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John

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