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Ben Anbeek
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PostPosted: Mon 23 May, 2011 1:31 pm    Post subject: new poleaxe         Reply with quote

made a new poleaxe and I would like to share it with you

total length 188 cm
total weight 1604 gram
point of balance 42,5 cm from hammerhead

hope you like it



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PostPosted: Mon 23 May, 2011 1:42 pm    Post subject: pole axe         Reply with quote

Great work, Ben! I would love to own one like this someday Happy Have you tested it on any armour yet? Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 23 May, 2011 2:22 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks simply and nice, like serious business skull crusher.

Would be cool to see it in motion.

Congrats.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 May, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Pollaxe...

That is a nice weapon
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PostPosted: Mon 23 May, 2011 6:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Seems very likable indeed. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon 23 May, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow - really like that one.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 May, 2011 7:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Simple clean lines and look " BRUTAL " in a nice way. Wink Big Grin Cool
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PostPosted: Mon 23 May, 2011 11:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow! That's a great weapon! Simple but elegant. I just wonder if 1.6 kg is a tad too light for an anti-armor polearm. Looks like something one would use for home defense (if there is such thing as home-defense polearm anyway), not take to an armored duel or campaign.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2011 12:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Aleksei Sosnovski wrote:
Wow! That's a great weapon! Simple but elegant. I just wonder if 1.6 kg is a tad too light for an anti-armor polearm. Looks like something one would use for home defense (if there is such thing as home-defense polearm anyway), not take to an armored duel or campaign.


When we've weighted originals the weights varied between 1.5 kg to 2.5 kg... This scene had the same misconception with swords ten years ago. A weapon needs to be controllable to fight well with it. This has to do with balance, but also weight.
It's amazing how much damage the fluke can do, also in a lighter weapon. Also, a lot of pollaxe techniques are based on lightly armoured parts as opposed to destroying armour.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2011 6:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very elegant! How is the head attached? Are the langets holding it on, or is it somehow fitted to the shaft as well?
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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ben van Koert wrote:

When we've weighted originals the weights varied between 1.5 kg to 2.5 kg... This scene had the same misconception with swords ten years ago. A weapon needs to be controllable to fight well with it. This has to do with balance, but also weight.
It's amazing how much damage the fluke can do, also in a lighter weapon. Also, a lot of pollaxe techniques are based on lightly armoured parts as opposed to destroying armour.


Well, 2-2.5 kg seems more reasonable. What were the originals that you have weighted? They might have been made for different purposes as well. In period illustrations that come to my mind pollaxes are usually depicted as pretty beefy.

By the way, how is weight of a pollaxe comparable to weight of other similar polearms (halberds, bills, glaives)? Have you weighted these as well? I would be very thankful if you could share info on weight of different polearms. We are just starting to make and use polearms in our club so this info would be very useful for us.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2011 11:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh i like it too. I can't wait to hold it in my Hands. Big Grin

To think of a Pollaxe as a anti-armour-weapon is a misconception in my Opinion. My Armour ist hardened to about 400 VHS and i have a test-Plat of the same hardness. By now no Weapon has managed to make a bigger Damage tha a scratch. This Plate is fixed at a Piece of wood, damaging an Armour on a wearer should be more difficult.

I think a Weapon like this was used to attack the less armoured Parts, bring the Enemy to Ground by various techniques or hurt him through his Armour. Piercing an hole in the Armours schould be nearly impossible.
Thats why most Pollaxes with a hammerhead are rather light like the one Ben made.

Besides this, i am very pleased with Bens Work an his delivery time is unbelievable. In about twenty Years in which i hade to do with Craftmen of Weapon replicas it was my fastest Comission.

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PostPosted: Wed 25 May, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Beautiful work. shipping these to customers must be a real hassle though.

you know the more I look at the picture of the original the more I have a question I want to ask.

obviously the one Ben made has the spike being a separate piece than the head and it is held down by the langets that are forged as part of the spike.

it looks to me like maybe the original's spike is forged as part of the head and the top langet is a loop with langets on the sides and is being used to hold the entire head down.

for those who have seen originals what do you think? am I looking at it all wrong?

thank you
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PostPosted: Wed 25 May, 2011 2:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi all thanks for the kind words.
I have attached the head with a litle pin trough the hammerhead into the shaft so it can't shift on the pole.

I think the top spike is attached to the langets on the original.
This is a common practice on poleweapons.
I have never seen the langetes loop over the spike.

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PostPosted: Wed 25 May, 2011 8:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Andrej Pfeiffer-Perkuhn wrote:

To think of a Pollaxe as a anti-armour-weapon is a misconception in my Opinion. My Armour ist hardened to about 400 VHS and i have a test-Plat of the same hardness. By now no Weapon has managed to make a bigger Damage tha a scratch. This Plate is fixed at a Piece of wood, damaging an Armour on a wearer should be more difficult.

Andrej


Maybe more a question of semantics but I do see the poleaxe as a very good anti-armour weapon in that it is effective in harming someone in armour or fighting them with effective techniques.

I do agree that with high end heat treated plate piercing it with point or bec would be a low probability but with lesser quality mild steel or iron plate one might be able to breach the plate itself.

One other aspect is that the hammer could transmit a lot of energy through the plate to at least shock or disrupt an opponent enough to then finish him off.

All the techniques you mentioned like hooking to bring him to the ground and finding weak points between the plates would be the main ways to fight with a poleaxe.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 May, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thanks Ben, I was looking at the lines of the bevels and all that and noticed how they flow together and it just gave me that impression.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 May, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow...

Few things shout "OPEN UP!" to a plate of armor like a poleaxe!

Excellent work!

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