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Matthew C B




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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec, 2010 4:02 pm    Post subject: Need some help Identifying an old sword.         Reply with quote

Hi,

I just found this forum, and wondered if anyone here would be able to help me with some information about an old sword I hav, and if you are able to give an idea if it has any value / how to go about selling it (if you are able to)

The makers mark Is Saynor


I don't know much about this type of thing, so not sure what information I can give to help you help me!

The blade is approx 32 1/2 Inches Long (Total length with Handle is 37 Inches)


Thank you for looking



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Glen A Cleeton




Location: Nipmuc USA
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Matthew

Welcome aboard. This appears to be a British made cavalry sword of the pattern 1796. A broader search for 1796 cavalry will bring up quite a bit of information on these swords. There were also infantry swords of model 1796 regulation. The Prussians continued to use a very similar base for many swords right into the 20th century but their contemporary model was/is labeled as the 1811 Blucher (iirc).

These are a bit out of my depth as to the British makers and do not have a reference for GAynor in my brief lists from that time period.

Some pictures overall of the blade condition will help any evaluate street value. I will say that the hilt and scabbard seem in a tired corroded condition and that does not help overall value at all. The maker name may make it collectible on the name alone. Others familiar and with the makers lists can probably help.

Let me see if I can plug in a thread archive I have for these from another board

Cheers

http://h1.ripway.com/Bombadil/1796%20Light%20...rchive.doc
Well, here and elsewhere (grrr lost my mirror)

Here we go, as a backup
http://files.myopera.com/3sails/files/1796%20...rchive.doc

GC
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Matthew C B




Location: UK
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Dec, 2010 4:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you for response Glen,

When i have a little more time I will take a look through the links you posted, I googled Pattern 1796, and there are alot of results!

I will try to get some decent shots of the blade, it seems to be in fairly good condition.

As you pointed out the Scabbard and the Hilt are in rather poor condition, sadly the sword has been hanging in a damp shed for many many years, at least the scabbard has done a decent job of protecting the blade.

When searching for the maker, all I can find is Samuel / Joshua saynor of sheffield, known for knife making but I can't find ay reference to swords.

Matt
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Glen A Cleeton




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PostPosted: Fri 10 Dec, 2010 5:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ah Saynor, not Gaynor. I am on a slow connection and did not let the image load completely. Plus sleep posting. I am full of excuses. Tge links are an older archive of threads at http://swordforum.com I should edit that file to update newer discussions and also note the links to an older board version will no longer be found at those links.

I still don't find the name for Sheffield, Birmingham or London on my short and limited lists. That puts you ahead in the general quest.

Cheers

GC
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Glen A Cleeton




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PostPosted: Fri 10 Dec, 2010 5:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

An interesting Saynor thread and from the National archives, a note of a cutler of the name as late as the 20th century.

http://www.sheffieldfhs2.org.uk/cgi-bin/forum...199303599/

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Matthew C B




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PostPosted: Fri 10 Dec, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Slow reading through some of the threads on Swordforum, very interesting to see so many similar swords.

I am struggling to take a decent photograph of the blade at the moment!
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