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PostPosted: Thu 12 Aug, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject: Show Us Your Knives or Eating Sets         Reply with quote

How about a thread for historical knives, eating knives, and eating sets? Happy These essential of items might have been far more common in the Middle Ages than swords and daggers, and probably saw more regular use for most people. So, let's see what people have.

Here's my medieval knife by Tod's Stuff:


A knife I used to own by Tod's Stuff that's moved on to another forumite's collection:


A&A's medieval knife, which has also moved on to another forumite:


A knife and pricker set that's moved on to another forumite:


Seems like I've sold more things than I've kept.... Collecting attention deficit disorder (CADD), I suppose... Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Aug, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is a simple eating set from Tod's other venture, The English Cutler along with a brass hanger that can be attached a belt. The thong from the scabbard then ties to the hanger making for a nice combination.





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PostPosted: Fri 13 Aug, 2010 1:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is mine made by a friend named Magnus Jansson!


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PostPosted: Fri 13 Aug, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Show us your knives or eating sets         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
Seems like I've sold more things than I've kept.... Collecting attention deficit disorder (CADD), I suppose... Happy


You have Can't Hoard A Dagger (CHAD) syndrome.

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's a better pic of my latest acquisition, a knife sold by Revival.us.


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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

These two photos might a bit off-topic, but somehow related to the question. So let's go...

First knife is not mine, but it's a true medieval knife from Louvre museum - Paris.
Second knife is a copy of ancient mongolian horsemen eating set. As far as I know, this already existed in very ancient times, there is no known starting date, and was still used in China up to mid XIX century.



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PostPosted: Sun 30 Jan, 2011 1:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is one I made a while back and just made new scabbard for.


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PostPosted: Sun 30 Jan, 2011 1:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is a better pic of my current three.


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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul, 2011 4:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's my latest, which is on its way from the UK to me as we speak. It's from Tod's Stuff. The blade is based on blade #73 from Knives and Scabbards, while the scabbard is based on scabbard #457 from Knives and Scabbards. Both date from the late 14th century. The handle is boxwood. The hilt plate, butt plate, peen black and decorative tubular rivets are made of brass.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul, 2011 5:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Beautiful work Chad and Tod!
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul, 2011 5:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bryce Felperin wrote:
Beautiful work Chad and Tod!


It's all Tod. Happy All I did was post his pictures of what he made. Cool

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Jul, 2011 1:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

In attempt to keep this thread going, how about some group shots?


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Nov, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My latest: Inspired by 15th-16th century "copper-alloy-"gripped knives. By Tod's Stuff (of course). Happy


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Nov, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the business Chad.

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My latest: Inspired by 15th-16th century "copper-alloy-"gripped knives. By Tod's Stuff (of course).


I will have to check my books, but I am pretty sure that this style of knife was very long lived and went from about 1250 to 1550 approx.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Nov, 2012 11:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's great Chad!

I love the uniqueness of this knife.

Congratulations, Tod, on another attractive piece.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Nov, 2012 11:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Leo Todeschini wrote:
Thanks for the business Chad.

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My latest: Inspired by 15th-16th century "copper-alloy-"gripped knives. By Tod's Stuff (of course).


I will have to check my books, but I am pretty sure that this style of knife was very long lived and went from about 1250 to 1550 approx.

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While brass/bronze/misc. copper alloy gripped knives were popular from 1250 on, I've seen a couple of examples with this open work dated to 1450-1550. I consider this design (though not all of them) to fit more into the 15th-16th window.

Regardless of date, I love it. Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Nov, 2012 12:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Another beauty for you, Chad! Great choice!

Here's my TS eating knife kit. Fun project!



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PostPosted: Wed 07 Nov, 2012 1:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bernard Delor wrote:

Second knife is a copy of ancient mongolian horsemen eating set. As far as I know, this already existed in very ancient times, there is no known starting date, and was still used in China up to mid XIX century.


Not just Mongolian, but also Chinese. Most of the old ones that one sees (and the new ones, too) are probably Chinese.

Since it was much more common for the diner to cut up a large cooked animal in Mongolia than in China, Mongolian ones could have very large knives. Attached are pictures of two of mine - one typical Chinese set, and what appears to be a Mongolian one.

The Mongolian knife is 233g (compared with 61g for the Chinese one).

More info on large Mongolian eating set/trousse knives at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15960



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PostPosted: Wed 07 Nov, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very cool knives fellas! I need to find one for my medieval kit. Thanks for the inspirations!
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Nov, 2012 1:11 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Timo, if I'm not wrong, your smaller Chinese set conceals a decorated ivory toothpick on front. While the Mongolian sets tend to be rather plain, Chinese sets can be sometimes extremely elaborated by means of making techniques, raw materials and tool components. Some conceal weapons - such as thrwoing daggers and forged steel chopsticks, made as stilettos. Several monthes ago I curated a Chinese arms exhibition and one of its major chapters includes about 30 different eating sets.


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