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Felix R.




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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jul, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: Late 14th. cent Pollaxe/-hammer         Reply with quote

Hello, as the title says, I am looking for depictions in artwork of pollaxe/-hammers in the late 14th cent. I now of a few in late 14th. cent french battle depictions and I had a look at Wagners line drawings. Thirs I know of Fiore dei Liberis around 1415 treatise about the pollaxe. Is there anything more clear and detailed? All those pictures I am refering to are rather crude.

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jul, 2010 2:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Felix,

I am no expert in pollaxes, but I took recently a picture of he Passionszyklus of the "Rothenburger Passion" (1494) at Rothenburg Reichsstadtmuseum. Theres one of the basic types of pollaxes depicted in the background. Perhaps it's of use to you... I can provide you with a larger picture if needed.

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jul, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thomas R. wrote:
Hi Felix,

I am no expert in pollaxes, but I took recently a picture of he Passionszyklus of the "Rothenburger Passion" (1494) at Rothenburg Reichsstadtmuseum. Theres one of the basic types of pollaxes depicted in the background. Perhaps it's of use to you... I can provide you with a larger picture if needed.

Best regads,

Thomas


An image from 1494 is a full 100 years later than what Felix is looking for. Happy

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Felix R.




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PostPosted: Thu 08 Jul, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes, there are many examples in the 15th cent. But donīt know too many from the century earlier. But it looks like this is the same for other people?
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Jul, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Look into Yates Thompson 35. Here is folio 90v. It is dated to 1380-1392. I have one image of it that has a gent on a horse with a pole axe.

Hope that helps!

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2010 12:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I know its earlier than you wanted, but the Holkham Picture Bible from circa 1320-1330 includes an image of a poleaxe. I'm not certain if the weapon depicted has an axe shaped head, or whether it's a hammer head more commonly found on "true" poleaxes.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...ckburn.jpg

The axe in question is in the upper of the two images, towards the centre at the very top of the picture.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Earlier is never a problem in this case. Because it shows the evolution.

In this case I would think it is an axe with a spike on top and back. But this still is a good addition. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul, 2010 2:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you for alll the help, over the last week I discussed things with my trusted arms smitha nd finalized the order, mostly based on the Fiore hammer.

I have those drawings from the Wagner book (pic attacched) does anybody no the original paintings he has taken those from? Especially the first 7 drawings are given date to the 14 th cent.



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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul, 2010 2:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Felix R. wrote:
I have those drawings from the Wagner book (pic attached) does anybody know the original paintings he has taken those from? Especially the first 7 drawings are given date to the 14th cent.


I'm not sure what you're asking, as I also have that book and the source for each of the weapon illustrations are noted at the bottom of the page.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul, 2010 2:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes, I know, but his drawings are just rough (in some cases very rough) interpretations of the real thing. So I would be happy to see the original paintings for comparison.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I found the painting for No. 1 at least.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilami/1992...129095611/
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