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Ed T.




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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun, 2010 12:08 pm    Post subject: carved hilt handle pattern - historical?         Reply with quote

I recently introduced my Tod's Stuff rondel dagger. http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=19786 . Can anybody document the criss-cross diamond carving pattern on the horn handle from a dagger or sword dating from 1415 or earlier? I need to find and example in order to have this lovely dagger vetted by my living history group. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jun, 2010 6:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's a similar grip pattern, from our Rondel Dagger spotlight:



It's dated circa 1490, which is earlier than you're looking for.

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Ed T.




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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jun, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Chad Arnow wrote:
Here's a similar grip pattern, from our Rondel Dagger spotlight:

It's dated circa 1490, which is earlier than you're looking for.


1490 is a bit late for my needs but it's only 75 years off. Hopefully I'll find an earlier example. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jun, 2010 10:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I can find a number of examples of the carving from after your period, which doesn't help you. Happy I'll attach 2 pics of one just so people can see it; it's pretty close to yours.

Also attached is one that uses a crisscross pattern from circa 1400. It's an all-metal dagger hilt which may have been cast rather than carved. It certainly doesn't have quite the topography that your example has.

Also, you can find images of sword grips from the 14th century with crisscross patterns on them. It may well be a surface treatment rather than carving, but it's the same idea.



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Dagger from Museo Nazionale Del Bargello. End of 15th century.

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Hilt of same dagger.

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Dagger hilt, circa 1400. Possibly English.

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Grip on Fitzralph brass.

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Grip from another brass

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Circa 1400. Member of the Dalison family

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Grip from G. de Gothem stone slab. 1358

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