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Anthony Arrigo




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jan, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: I need help identifys 2 swords and 1 bayonet please         Reply with quote

Hello, First off I am sorry If i am posting this in the wrong area, I was not able to find an area to post in and when I thought I did, it told me I was not allowed to, I am new to this forum and I need some help. I have 2 swords and one bayonet that I really need some Info on.....I got them from my father and he did have a little info on one, but that was all.........I will post the Pictures below, Any info would be great, "year, maker, value, ect. Thank you in advance...The one I have info on if the first set of pictures "1700's stag handle, one visable star both sides of blade, 28"overall, 23" blade.short sword" The second sword is also stag handle, it has one cresent moon and 3 star and both sides of blade, its 26"overall the blade is 21 1/2" long........And the last, The bayonet its 20" over all wood handle i think and looks like 5067203 on butt but im not sure its kind of faded, So thank you any help would be great Sorry it will NOT let me upload ANY pictures, If anyone could email me at aja13501@aol.com And I could email you Pictures I would appricate it........Thanks
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A. Spanjer




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jan, 2010 4:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Have you tried photobucket? You can make an account there and upload your photos, then just copy and post the "[img]" links.

http://photobucket.com/
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Anthony Arrigo




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jan, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

First sword











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Anthony Arrigo




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jan, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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Anthony Arrigo




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jan, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bayonette











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A. Spanjer




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jan, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The swords look like 19th century hunting hangers to me. The bayonet looks WWI era to me, but I don't really know.

Maybe of the more knowlegable users on here can shed some light on them.
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Anthony Jacobs




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jan, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I can't help you with the Hangers, but the bayonet appears to be a Japanese Type 30.
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Christopher Finneman




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jan, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I agree it does look like a japanese bayonet I have nearly identicle one here thats japanese.
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P. Cha




PostPosted: Sun 17 Jan, 2010 11:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A. Spanjer wrote:
The swords look like 19th century hunting hangers to me. The bayonet looks WWI era to me, but I don't really know.

Maybe of the more knowlegable users on here can shed some light on them.


You know, something about those swords said the same thing to me too...but not an area I really know much about...
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Nate C.




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jan, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I agree with the previous posters. the first two are hunting hangers most likely. the bayonet is one of these.

Cheers,

Nate C.

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Anthony Arrigo




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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jan, 2010 2:01 am    Post subject: Thank you         Reply with quote

Thank you for all the info, Does anyone have any idea of the value if the swords? ballpark.......thanks
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E.B. Erickson
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jan, 2010 3:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello Anthony,
Both the hunting swords are from the late 1600s-early 1700s. The first one is missing the shellguard, and may be European, with that blade fullering.
The second one is probably English.

--ElJay
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Anthony Arrigo




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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jan, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: Thanks         Reply with quote

Thank You everyone for your Input it has been VERY helpful. I found the bayonet so I know what the value is.......As far as the swords go I cannot find anything like them, Or even a price to go by, I was reading handmade, go for ALOT more then Machine made, Any Ideas? Thanks.....
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Christopher Gregg




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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jan, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Anthony, as far as the value of your two hunting swords goes, I'll tell you what I've seen: recently a similar looking one went for $168 on eBay, while another went for around $800. If you go to a few antique sword sellers' web sites, you can see hunting swords similar to yours listing for as high as $2,000. Without holding yours, or knowing what you were looking to get for them, I would be inclined to offer somewhere between $200 and $400, IF I were currently in the market, that is Wink . Perhaps yours would fetch more, maybe less. Anywho, that's my 2 cents. Good luck, and neat swords!
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A. Spanjer




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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jan, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

E.B. Erickson wrote:
Hello Anthony,
Both the hunting swords are from the late 1600s-early 1700s. The first one is missing the shellguard, and may be European, with that blade fullering.
The second one is probably English.

--ElJay


That early?

Wow, I had no idea. They looked Victorian to me. Blush
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E.B. Erickson
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan, 2010 4:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Get ahold of the book "Swords and Blades of the American Revolution" by George Neumann. It is pretty much a photo book, with different types of swords treated in different sections. It has a lot of hunting sword photos, and you can find photos of pieces similar to yours. The book has dates, weights, measurements, etc.., and is a trove of information on swords of the 16 and 1700s.

--ElJay
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Glenn McClain




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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan, 2010 7:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Anthony, I'm fairly sure I knew your Dad. I may have seen the swords at one time or another!-I don't remember.
Like Mr. Gregg said : I would have them in my hands to give you a real value.
My name may be familiar : You may have an item or two I made for your Dad! ~Glenn McClain
P.S. Maybe Dick B. could help us out.
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Christopher Gregg




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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan, 2010 9:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Glenn McClain wrote:
Hi Anthony, I'm fairly sure I knew your Dad. I may have seen the swords at one time or another!-I don't remember.
Like Mr. Gregg said : I would have them in my hands to give you a real value.
My name may be familiar : You may have an item or two I made for your Dad! ~Glenn McClain
P.S. Maybe Dick B. could help us out.


Well, hello there, stranger! Nice to see (and hear?) from you! Welcome to the forums! Glad another real expert is posting now - it's a lot of fun.

Are you going to the Linton, IN Trade Show this weekend?

Christopher Gregg

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