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		| Gabriele Becattini
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat 02 Jan, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: use of very short-shaved hair during the late middle age |   |   
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				| doing some costume research i have found some illustration depicting bertrand du guesclin, dating from the early XVth century,showing him with very short cropped-shaved hairstyle. i was wondering if it was a common use durind the late middle age and if you could show me other examples in art. 
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		| Nathan Quarantillo
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun 03 Jan, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: |   |   
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				| this isn't late middle ages more early Renaissance,  but I do remember that a number of landsknechts preferred the military style hair cut as you speak of. “He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche
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		| Chad Arnow
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				|  Posted: Sun 03 Jan, 2010 8:51 am    Post subject: |   |   
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				| England's King Henry V is often shown in period art with hair very short around the sides and back. 
 
   
 
   
   
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		| Glennan Carnie
			
 
  
 
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				|  Posted: Sun 03 Jan, 2010 9:25 am    Post subject: |   |   
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				| Hairstyles seem to go in fashion cycles throughout the middle ages. 
 The Normans in the early 11thC favoured the short 'pudding basin' style.  However, for most of the Middle Ages medium (collar) length hair seemed to be most common.
 
 The 'pudding basin' haircut had a brief resurgence in the late 14th - early 15th centuries (see the images Chad has posted) before reverting to medium length again.
 
 Medium length hair seems to have remained the norm until the second quarter of the 16th Century, when closer cropped (read: more like today's) hairstyles became the fashion.
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		| Gabriele Becattini
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun 03 Jan, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: |   |   
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				| your comments are enterely correct, but if you take a look at the picture below  Bertrand  and some of the men on the foreground are  depicted with the very short haircut tipical of the middle of the XVIth century: 
 
 
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		| Maurizio D'Angelo
			
 
  
 
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				|  Posted: Sun 03 Jan, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: |   |   
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				| Here are examples of more or less the period. In the pages of deepening, there are other portraits. Galleria degli Uffizi. Florence.
 http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galleria_degli_U...inquecento
 images are to bottom
 I hope this is helpful.
   Ciao
 Maurizio
 
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				|  Posted: Sun 03 Jan, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: |   |   
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				| Interesting stuff; clearly I have to extend the definition of 'short hair' in the early XVth Century to include more than just the 'pudding basin'! |  | 
	 
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				|  Posted: Sun 03 Jan, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: |   |   
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				| This subject came up about two years ago (or so) over at Armour Archive. 
 Turns out one short style of hair that shows up though out the middle ages is:
 
 Cropped.
 
 About 3 to 5 days worth of stubble.
 
 If there was a common shape (such as the "pudding basin') the period art shows the basic shape of the style, just buzzed down to stubble.
 
 Here is a late 15th century example
 http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/g/ghirl...nfir3.html
 
 
 
   
 Yes, even I rocked the  "pudding basin' once for an event.
   This you shall know, that all things have length and measure.
 
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