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David Huggins




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PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: New Viking Movie         Reply with quote

Well as long as it isn't touted as a 'factual' movie I might be willing to forgive Mr.Gibson the traverty that was 'Braveheart'.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I can name at least three of Gibson's film that are anything but historically accurate. 1. Apocalypto 2. Braveheart 3. The Patriot. I guess when the average American thinks of what a 13th century highlander looks like they think kilts and blue paint. I know that movie making is a business, and that a profit has to be made, but can't they just once make something to sate we history people? (I just appreciate history, I am by no means a history buff) Everything is so cliche or arch typical. I will probably see the movie but with a huge grain of salt.
While I am going there... What are some movies that display a good sense of period historical accuracy? Lets make a list. I was thinking the movie "Rob Roy" but am not even remotely sure.
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luke Zechman wrote:
I can name at least three of Gibson's film that are anything but historically accurate. 1. Apocalypto 2. Braveheart 3. The Patriot. I guess when the average American thinks of what a 13th century highlander looks like they think kilts and blue paint. I know that movie making is a business, and that a profit has to be made, but can't they just once make something to sate we history people? (I just appreciate history, I am by no means a history buff) Everything is so cliche or arch typical. I will probably see the movie but with a huge grain of salt.
While I am going there... What are some movies that display a good sense of period historical accuracy? Lets make a list. I was thinking the movie "Rob Roy" but am not even remotely sure.


Rob Roy was pretty good but they blew " it" when he takes the plaid off of his (then up to date in the movie "great" ) kilt for the last fight scene.

I like to call The Patriot: " Braveheart, the colonial years" Wink

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: New Viking Movie         Reply with quote

I thought 'The Duellist' was a good movie but not sure how accurate it is.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I predict that this thread will hit the 400+ comment range. We as a forum love to belabor Hollywood's abuse of history.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

i could quite possibly become one of those films that no one will watch with me because i comment all the way through! (can't watch tristan and isolde anymore) !
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 4:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I just hope they get the horns on the helmets right. Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 5:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Scott S. wrote:
I just hope they get the horns on the helmets right. Happy


And do not forget the double-headed axe. No respectable Viking should leave home without it.


Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World and also Beowulf & Grendel were not that bad. If not perfect, at least they did some research.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Leonardo DiCaprio as a viking? Does that sounds funny only to me??? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: New Viking Movie         Reply with quote

David Huggins wrote:
I thought 'The Duellist' was a good movie but not sure how accurate it is.

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Pretty much spot on as far as a period fiction can get. They went to great lengths to get the uniforms and clothing right. I've also heard the military conduct was done really well too.

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 6:15 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Leonardo DiCaprio as a viking? Does that sounds funny only to me??? Wink


Smart Mel, figuring out a way to get the wives/girlfriends to come with us to see this move.

The large audience required to support a big budget Hollywood movie is unlikely to appreciate something that is 100% accurate, but I hope there isn't too much unnecessary nonsense. Otherwise, if this movie is entertaining, gets people interested in viking times, inspires movie swords etc, and is good for the reproduction industry, bring it on!
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 6:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

In my personal opinion, Hollywood asks for this kind of punishment (not that our scathing remarks bring the industry to its knees or anything). If they bothered to make movies with historically accurate kit, behavior and the like, they would definitely be making better movies, because the history is truthfully really easy to add on to the creative element of the story, and unless they're attempting to be blatantly stereotypical ( i.e. the horned helms and double bit war axes ), there really isn't any good excuse for putting history on the sidelines.

I think it's safe to presume that we were all "That Guy" in the theater during the criminally-botched debacle that was "Troy" Evil

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 6:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Leonardo DiCaprio as a viking? Does that sounds funny only to me??? Wink

No doubt! Tom Cruise would have been a much better choice.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 7:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gibson directing DiCrapio....in a Vike flick? Please, oh please, movie-gods, strike down this production fast! Eek!
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Given his history, maybe it'll be about the Greenland settlement--doomed Christians against the elements, etc.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 9:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I like Gibson just fine as a director, historically accurate or not the guy is still a great director. DiCaprio is a great actor. That said he shouldn't play a viking. I'm not seeing that working at all.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I imagine the story line like this: DiCaprio, dressed in magic weapon-proof reindeer hides, leads a rag-tag group of Saami people (who will be called Lapplanders) in rebellion against their Norse oppressors. DiCaprio of course, is Norse himself, but was raised by the "lapplanders", ala the original basis of "Pathfinder". Before a climatic battle he yells out "you can take our reindeer, but you can't take our freedom!" During the battle, he is captured by the Norse. He gets tortured and we are treated to the first cinematic depiction of the famous mythical "blood eagle", which is probably the only reason Mel is doing the film in the first place...

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
Leonardo DiCaprio as a viking? Does that sounds funny only to me??? Wink


The movie picks up where "Titanic" left off. Leonardo is drowning in the North Atlantic and is rescued by Vikings then goes to fight Grendel riding a clydesdale.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I for one cannot wait. I enjoy Hollyweird for what it is there for.....pure enteratinment. If I want an edcuation, I turn to books and journals, not the big screen.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Paul Mullins wrote:
I for one cannot wait. I enjoy Hollyweird for what it is there for.....pure enteratinment.

Oh absolutely Paul! Not that I'm even erudite enough (yet) to catch 10% of the inaccuracies others here could easily spot, I still gobble up anything even remotely relating to my Dark Age/Medieval interests. There's never enough of it as far as I'm concerned. At least the long-term trend of motion pictures has generally been towards historical accuracy, not away from it, I'm sure most would agree.

Ok, I'll admit it, my wife and I will probably even see this in the theater: (and not even kids for an excuse.)
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