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Adam D. Kent-Isaac




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PostPosted: Tue 08 Sep, 2009 10:47 pm    Post subject: The armour of Claude de Vaudrey         Reply with quote

On someone's personal webpage, a unique armour can be seen which is labeled as having belonged to "Claude de Vaudrey, Chamberlain of Burgundy." It features a great bascinet with a bellows visor, and a tonlet skirt. Date is given as c. 1500. Maybe this Claude de Vaudrey may have been among the retinue of Francis I at the Field of the Cloth of Gold tournament and participated in the combat on foot there, as the style of armour is similar to what Henry VIII wore at that tournament, although this is just a guess.

What I want to know is, where exactly this harness is located. Furthermore, if anyone has any additional information on Claude de Vaudrey, let me know, because I can find next to nothing online. And lastly, which other tonlet armours survive? I know there is one at the Royal Armouries which was worn by Henry VIII; I have also seen photos of a tonlet suit worn by Charles V.

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This harness is housed in the Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna, Austria - commonly referred to as the Neue Burg collections. It's dated to 1495 in official publications. I saw it in person there a couple of years ago, and it's a great looking harness. It is displayed beside another beautiful, gilded tournament harness originally belonging to Maximilian I himself, dated to 1508.

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

And looking through my collection, I found a nice photograph of each of three other suits... Two are those you mentioned, that belonging to Henry VIII (dated to 1520), that of Charles V (1525) and the latest example belonging to Archduke Ferdinand of Spain (1547). -Note- The images are in chronological order, as stated above.






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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep, 2009 1:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you for those photos! I will definitely have to visit that museum if I am in Austria.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep, 2009 1:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, I'm off to see the family in Austria in October, and I'll be staying in Vienna for two days. Going to the KHM is already part of the plan, so I'll try to get some better pictures if anyone is interested (I'll have to check the museum rules on photography)?

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep, 2009 2:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Johan S. Moen wrote:
Well, I'm off to see the family in Austria in October, and I'll be staying in Vienna for two days. Going to the KHM is already part of the plan, so I'll try to get some better pictures if anyone is interested (I'll have to check the museum rules on photography)?

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if the memory serves you had to purchase photo licence and could not use tripod.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Been there a month ago, no photo permit necessary, but I think tripods aren't allowed. There are several other places of interest there, I spent 4 days running through museums and galleries. I still have to process all the photos...

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep, 2009 6:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The KHM has one of the best collections of armour in the world, if not -the- best, so it's kind of a must if you're ever in town.

It's on my itinarary whenever I get over there, anyway.
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