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Anders Nilsson




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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jul, 2009 11:37 am    Post subject: Projekt vikingshield         Reply with quote

Inspired by Roland from Hammaborgs shields I decided to make on of my own.
I used what information on finds I could get my hands on and started the projekt.

Im making it of fir. Ive also got my hands on a forged buckle, and Im going to cover it with linen and figures made from brass. Like on the finds from Vendel.
Im making it about 5-8 mm thick.

And Im making it from scratch.

Here are some pics of the projekt.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/Lord_Nelle/P6190009.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/Lord_Nelle/P6190011.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/Lord_Nelle/P6190017.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/Lord_Nelle/P6190022.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/Lord_Nelle/P6200040.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/Lord_Nelle/P6200032.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/Lord_Nelle/P6200028.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/Lord_Nelle/P6200030.jpg

Anders "Nelle" Nilsson, Instructor Angermanna Mnhfs
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Viktor Abrahamson




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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jul, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nice! Im looking forward to following your projekt.
How big is it going to be?
What kind of shieldboss will it get?

/Viktor
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Jim Adelsen
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jul, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Great project. I too will be watching.
www.viking-shield.com
www.thevikingmuseum.com
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Anders Nilsson




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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jul, 2009 1:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Viktor Abrahamson wrote:
Nice! Im looking forward to following your projekt.
How big is it going to be?
What kind of shieldboss will it get?

/Viktor


Im making it about 90 cm across.

Here is a nice link about shields.
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chrisandpeter/shield/shield.html
The boss is a type C from figure 3.

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Steven H




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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jul, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow.

When I clicked on the first picture link, I thought to myself that you'd included the wrong picture. Then I realized that you were starting this project from live trees. That's impressive.

Thanks for sharing,
Steven

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Jnos Sibinger




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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jul, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Making a shield , wich's planks are your work too? Remarkable!
Altough I think that pine is not the best material for a shield, since it brakes and cleaves easily.
(Of course I only know the pines grew in the southern region, the northern wood is said to be mouch better, since the slow growth.)
I made my shield too, a heater. different style I know, but the experience I gained might be useful. I have red, that shields were often made of linden or poplar. these are soft woods, but they do not cleave, and they are pretty light, wich are very important characteristics in such case. I wanted to make the glue of an old recipe (wich was said to be used by the Vikings too) but since I could not have found quicklime, I bought a glue, wich is being still produced by the ancient recipe.
They sell it as wood glue, and it smells like vinegar. (I don't know, if I'm supposed to say this, but the name of two products like this are Rakoll and Ravemur) The different plastic-based glues have got similar smell, but they can't be mixed properly with water (just like fat). This kind of glue is incredibely strong.
I made my shield of poplar, It's easy to carve it, they say that linden is even better.
I would like to recommend a link too, where they are making anglo-saxon shields, really interesting.
(Especially the third and the fourth part)

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=AF7E2...ain+shield

Good luck!
John
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jul, 2009 12:45 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You sir have me interested! I look forward to seeing how well this turns out. Do you think you could keep a few boards on the side so you can test the strength of said wood without risking the shield?

M.

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Viktor Abrahamson




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PostPosted: Mon 24 Aug, 2009 2:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello Anders!
How is the shield-projekt running?

/Viktor
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Ken Speed





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PostPosted: Mon 24 Aug, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: Projekt vikingshield         Reply with quote

Hi Anders,


You wrote,

"And Im making it from scratch."

Wow, what a gutsy decision! I have to admit that I'm really of two minds about your plan. I absolutely hope it works for you but I'm really concerned that making your shield out of green wood will cause you some serious problems.

I'd imagine that it would be difficult to ascertain the condition of the wood that Viking age shields were made from by studying archeological examples, how can you tell if it was ever dried after its been buried in the ground for a thousand years or more? I suspect however that the wood they used was air dried, probably to a moisture content of about 10%. I would expect that their shields would have a tendency to pull themselves apart if they were made with green (wet) wood.

So are you planning on using hide glue to glue the boards together? What other techniques are you planning to use that are from the Viking age?

Best of luck and please keep us posted on your progress,

Ken
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G. Bezanson




Location: Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Sep, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have read the round shields, such as those used by vikings, anglo saxons, the vendel, etc.... are tapered towards the edge, to be lighter. Is this done on the front, back or perhaps both sides of the shield? Also, is this taper over the whole shield, or does it start closer to the edge?


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Tom King




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PostPosted: Wed 23 Sep, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

your a better man than I. when I finally get around to building my shield I'm going to just use oak 1by6's screwed to some steel bars and a boss from the internet.
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G. Bezanson




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PostPosted: Sun 27 Sep, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I do have another question, since I to plan on making an accurate viking shield (though not quite so 'from scratch' as yours), if I were to start from boards, or was sawing or splitting them myself, would I want them flat sawn or quarter sawn? This is purely for historical accuracy, since I'm not planning on letting anyone hit it.
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